Zamia loddigesii

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:24 am

This is reported to be a somewhat hardy Zamia, some more info: http://www.pacsoa.org.au/cycads/Zamia/loddigesii.html

Fresh seed,

A good cleaning, followed by a two day soak, seeds spread out about 10 per container ( these will be separated after the first leaves are up )

Cover with about 1/4" of mix.

Still too cold here to leave these in the green house, they will stay here for a couple weeks to get them started ( 90*F day time temps )

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:23 am

Steve,
Great germination contraption.

Palmtalk.org calls Z.loddigesii the Best Zamia
Barb

virtualpalm · Post by **virtualpalm** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:10 pm

lucky1 wrote:Palmtalk.org calls Z.loddigesii the Best Zamia
Barb

I often refer to this species as "bulletproof:" http://www.plantapalm.com/vce/cycadstor ... tproof.htm

However, it is not the most cold-hardy cycad. It will definitely have problems with mid 20's F and with frost at any temperature.

Jody

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:21 pm

Jody, thanks for the link.

...a heck of a way to find out!

Rather than goofing, I bring them all inside before the first frost, some to a cold building and others to the warm residence. To me, they all appear so delicate.
Barb

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:27 am

Jody,
Thanks for the link! I heard a rumour a while back that Zamia sp. "Mexico" may get a name? Have you heard anything in regards to this?

Barb,
I can only dream about living somewhere with no frost

Steve

virtualpalm · Post by **virtualpalm** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:47 am

Knnn wrote:I heard a rumour a while back that Zamia sp. "Mexico" may get a name? Have you heard anything in regards to this?

I have not heard anything about this. The plants in this Zamia sp. 'Mexico' group comprise a complex species complex (is that redundant?) that may represent a latitudinal cline of interbreeding populations and/or one or more hybrid swarms and/or who knows what. In Mexico there is a species complex within Zamia that runs north and south up the Caribbean coast (= Z. loddigesii complex) and another rather similar complex that runs north and south up the Pacific coast (= Z. paucijuga complex). I believe the Z. sp. 'Mexico' seeds/plants that people have obtained (directly or indirectly) from Montgomery Botanical Center here in Miami are part of the former species complex, but I am not completely sure of that. As you can tell, MUCH more work needs to be done before any kind of resolution or understanding of these groups will come forth.

Jody

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:10 am

Jody,
I thought this was interesting regarding the Z. paucijuga complex, and i would agree it is going to take a while to sort these out

The chromosome numbers of several species of Zamia from Mexico are reported, Z. paucijuga, distributed from central Oaxaca to Nayarit, has been found to have 2n = 23, 25, 26, 27 and 28. 2n = 28 is the highest chromosome number yet found in the cycads.

Link to abstract: http://www.springerlink.com/content/p58 ... 5e223&pi=5

Steve

Kansas · Post by **Kansas** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:30 am

I talked to Robert Chumley about 2-3 days ago and he told me a very interesting story about the "Palatka Giant" and how it got there with the Indians and the St. John's River.
Virtual, I am sure you know all about it, but Steve & others, if your interested, give Robert a call. You will be glad you did. Very cool history lesson.

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:29 pm

Here is one that is just getting started,

Steve

Knnn · Post by **Knnn** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:44 pm

Noticed a few breaking the surface today,

Steve

lucky1 · Post by **lucky1** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:47 am

Looks very robust at nearly half the seed thickness.

Barb

Dean W. · Post by **Dean W.** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:57 am

Steve, your a pro!

Dean

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