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Eric those pics look great. You really get an idea of what they look when older. I will add xbutiagrus as palms I must have. How fast will a one gal mule palm grow compared to say a one gal.Trachy?
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Zone 7 is really pushing it for a mule palm. They typically are a zone 8 and above. However with the right micro climate they should be ok.
Mule palms are fast growers. Typically 18 to 24 inches a year. Usually between 2nd and 3rd year, they hit around the 3 ft mark and start pinnating. I am not aware of how well the Trachy does I have never personally grown them. I only know what people say here on the internet. I would ask Joe from Salt springs. He grows alot of them.
Mule palms are fast growers. Typically 18 to 24 inches a year. Usually between 2nd and 3rd year, they hit around the 3 ft mark and start pinnating. I am not aware of how well the Trachy does I have never personally grown them. I only know what people say here on the internet. I would ask Joe from Salt springs. He grows alot of them.
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I like them too, and maybe if Banana Joe grows the hybrid, we could buy one from him (without the phyto and border hassle).
I'd be interested if you're getting one, John.
Great they like full sun.
Can they handle hot desert winds?
From all reports the hybrid is hardier than either parent.
Thanks for the great pics, Erik.
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I'd be interested if you're getting one, John.
Great they like full sun.
Can they handle hot desert winds?
From all reports the hybrid is hardier than either parent.
Thanks for the great pics, Erik.
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Thanks Barb.
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Not 3 separate.
Those are not three separate seeds. Those are all from 1 seed. Look closely.
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Eric we have some miscomunication in regards to planting mule palms. I`m aware of what will survive here in a zone 6b-7a.50% of the palms I grow will not survive winter here without protection. I was looking to grow some mule palms in containers or plant them in pots. The queen palm side of the hybrid must be the factor in which they grow so fast. Have any Xbutiagrus been tested for any length of time for winter hardiness in the Pacific northwest? I see they are rated about -12c 10f. Do you plan on having phyto certificates for shipping to B.C. as I`m sure many palm people here would be purchasing from you?
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Re: Not 3 separate.
I stand corrected Erik ... thanks. I've seen Butia grown in multiples.Eriktampabay wrote:Those are not three separate seeds. Those are all from 1 seed. Look closely.
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Mule testing.
John as far as im aware they have not been tested in the PNW. They are doing well in the U.K., france, and ireland, we have a couple in front of the Mirage in vegas. There have been a couple people that have them in Victoria, and as far as I know there doing fine. That is why we have 200 on San Juan Island now. We have a few seedlings in the ground, and a few six footers we will keep non protected all winter to see how well they do. We can get a certificate for Canada. I have been talking with Barrie, I think if we just do a big shipment of some bare root seedlings and only have to pay for one certificate would be wise. Rather then taking a bunch of orders. It would save everyone alot of money and time.
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That'd be the smart way to do it.
If Barrie agrees, we'd naturally all offer to cover his extra handling and shipping, as well as sharing in the phyto cost.
I'm really impressed with the look of this hybrid, and definitely want two or three.
BTW Erik, any chance you have a couple of Hyophorbe lagenicaulis kicking around somewhere? (sorry to change the subject folks).
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If Barrie agrees, we'd naturally all offer to cover his extra handling and shipping, as well as sharing in the phyto cost.
I'm really impressed with the look of this hybrid, and definitely want two or three.
BTW Erik, any chance you have a couple of Hyophorbe lagenicaulis kicking around somewhere? (sorry to change the subject folks).
Barb
Barb ... as mentioned, Erik and I have had some very preliminary e-mail exchanges regarding getting some of these on, and in Canadian soil. I'm certainly willing to bring in what may be needed for those willing to participate. Once in my hands I can send them out at cost, to the interested parties.
If anyone of the crazy palm growing Canadians are interested you can PM me and let's get the ball rolling. I was thinking of having two dozen sent anyway.
Cheers, Barrie.
If anyone of the crazy palm growing Canadians are interested you can PM me and let's get the ball rolling. I was thinking of having two dozen sent anyway.
Cheers, Barrie.
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I will work on shipping in more.
Thanks Barrie let me know how many you need. We will prepare for 24 bare root seedlings as of now. If you need more just let me know. I will need your address and phone number for certification
I will make sure I throw in a couple doubles for you Barrie. We usually send a few extra in case any are damaged during shipping.
And thanks to all of you who are interested. Look foward to seeing these tree's all over Vancouver, and other parts of Canada.
Erik
I will make sure I throw in a couple doubles for you Barrie. We usually send a few extra in case any are damaged during shipping.
And thanks to all of you who are interested. Look foward to seeing these tree's all over Vancouver, and other parts of Canada.
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For those who cant wait.
And for those who are to impatient to watch there seedlings grow. We do have an overstock of 1 gallons that should be in 3 gallons already pinnate, all over 3 foot and ready to go in the ground next spring. These are $50.00. I dont want to have to transplant these into 3 gallons as they get to heavy to ship, and to be quite honest with you, its a pain in my arse.
Thank you
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Thank you
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Re: more photos
Erik .. I asked around today while I was at work. Apparently only a small dept of tech workers have some kind of labor issues. Mail is supposed to flow normally. I can e-mail you and get the ball rolling.Eriktampabay wrote:We are still waiting for the post office to not be on strike. More photos of mule palm nursery
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Canadian dollar 78.7 cents (ouch...)
This shouldn't be unfamiliar to Canadians...
Paid 88.9 a litre for gas last night = about $4.00 Cdn gallon.
Yesterday, Washington state gas stations charged $2.11 US gallon.
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Paid 88.9 a litre for gas last night = about $4.00 Cdn gallon.
Yesterday, Washington state gas stations charged $2.11 US gallon.
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Butyagtrus video
Here is a video I put on youtube awhile ago while I was bored.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc5d0MgjIzA
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Waiting
We were waiting for the strike to end at the post office. NOw I am just waiting for a go ahead email and final order from Barrie and payment.
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Mule palms
I have grown them before and I only have a couple of left I will be planting in my own garden. I obtained the seed from Locarno, Switzerland. The cross O have is a Butia x Jubaea. I have mine in 1 gallon pots now so hopefully in a few years they will be big enough for me to plant out. Sorry about not having any left to sell, but next time I obtain seeds I'll let you guys know. Cheers, Joe
Growing palms and other exotic plants here in the Southern Gulf Islands.
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Joe.
The people in the UK or screaming for that Hybrid Joe. I have heard it is quite a bit hardier then the Xbutyagrus.
Public Apology
I've had to cancel my order with Erik for the mule palm shipment, for now anyway. The decision wasn't made lightly but costs where getting beyond reason once all the factors where added up.
The uncertainty of shipping during unstable / cold weather at this time of year was definately a risk.
Cost was also a huge factor. The badly slumping Canadian dollar, shipping and phyto-sanitary combined with further shipping once sent from my place, made the cost soar more than double. I couldn't expect anyone to pay $50 (CDN) for a small palm liner that was $22 (US) originally.
My apologies to anyone effected. I hope we can perhaps do this at a later date and I wish Erik all the success he deserves.
Cheers, Barrie.
The uncertainty of shipping during unstable / cold weather at this time of year was definately a risk.
Cost was also a huge factor. The badly slumping Canadian dollar, shipping and phyto-sanitary combined with further shipping once sent from my place, made the cost soar more than double. I couldn't expect anyone to pay $50 (CDN) for a small palm liner that was $22 (US) originally.
My apologies to anyone effected. I hope we can perhaps do this at a later date and I wish Erik all the success he deserves.
Cheers, Barrie.
To bad its easier to repot your palms than to mail one,I sure would have loved to get one of these.
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Thanks Barrie. The seedlings will be running again around june. So until then I guess I have to get to potting the rest of these up. Next time maybe you can just give me the address of everyone in the states that wanted them. I can ship directly. That way there is only one fee involved. It only involves a few stamps in the states to ship seedlings.
We have a project in the works right now.
San juan island washington.
There is a new sports pavilion being built here for the kids. Everything has been donated even the land. We will be donating all the palms. Hopefully we will have enough room with one shipping container but if not I may need to pay your shop a visit to finish this landscaping project. Of course it will be centered off of 5 large 65 gallon Xbutyagrus, along with saw palmetto, needle palms, european fan, Butia capitatas.
What might you have up there Barrie. That would help us finish this 5 acre project? Besides what I mentioned above.
And thanks again Barrie for trying to put this together.
Erik
We have a project in the works right now.
San juan island washington.
There is a new sports pavilion being built here for the kids. Everything has been donated even the land. We will be donating all the palms. Hopefully we will have enough room with one shipping container but if not I may need to pay your shop a visit to finish this landscaping project. Of course it will be centered off of 5 large 65 gallon Xbutyagrus, along with saw palmetto, needle palms, european fan, Butia capitatas.
What might you have up there Barrie. That would help us finish this 5 acre project? Besides what I mentioned above.
And thanks again Barrie for trying to put this together.
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Also we have two 6 foot, a 3 foot, and a few liners of xbutyagrus in the ground here in the Pacific Northwest. This will be the first year we have personally tested these in a colder climate. We will be leaving them unprotected all winter. I myself am hoping for snow, just to see how far we can push these. So far everything is doing well. But we have not seen tempatures below 30f yet. The seedlings are pushing there 4th leaf, growth rate is higher then the ones we have in the green house, but most palms do that after they are put in the ground.
It will take a couple winters to really have any kind of substatial data, but when we do I will share it with you all, so there is no question to there hardiness. It has been kind of funny that our nursery in florida has had colder tempatures already then we have had here in washington. I am quite enjoying still seeing palms and not having to sweat.
It will take a couple winters to really have any kind of substatial data, but when we do I will share it with you all, so there is no question to there hardiness. It has been kind of funny that our nursery in florida has had colder tempatures already then we have had here in washington. I am quite enjoying still seeing palms and not having to sweat.
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