February planting isn't too bad.
But November and December? disgust 😆

Bigger palms have more root mass with a lot of old roots that are just for stability.
Young little guys generally have only fleshy delicate roots so it makes sense.

I'll just go pull the spears out for them in Oct icon_biggrin.gif

Almost fell off my chair laughing at that one. :laughing8:

Barb

Bill and I always kid around...if you think you don't have spear pull...your not pulling hard enough. 😀

I can just imagine how you and Bill laugh about that.
Crazy dudes. 😆

Barb

So far the Bulgarian,smaller Waggie,Fort x Wag
(had pulled already)little Takil,smaller Nainital have all pulled.

There is another leaf closing on the Fortunei that had the suspect leaf...

Supposed to be ion the 60s over the weekend,with any luck it will be warm enough
for them to push up some growth-probably not though.....on the bright side.....
these are getting harder to cover every year and this will slow them down.

The forecasting is so poor lately....supposed to be in the low 20s last night,was actually 30F.

Side note;

2 Tesan,1 Takil have not pulled and none of the bigger palms that were out for the March event.

2 Tesan,1 Takil have not pulled

Thank goodness for small mercies.

The forecasting is so poor lately....supposed to be in the low 20s last night,was actually 30F

That kind of error we don't mind.
I swear all the senior guys have retired and they're relying only on computer models.

with any luck it will be warm enough for them to push up some growth-

Soft growth, but growth nevertheless.

Sad that they get knocked back time and time again, especially the fortunei. 😥

Barb

The other leaf I thought was going looks better today.

Would be cool if this one can join the bigger ones,so I can torture it more. 8)

What blows me away, Jim, is that anyone else that has problems with cold damage on palms ends up with palms that look like crap.
Yours bounce back and look pristine in no time.

One day you'll tell us your secret. :silent:

Barb

[quote="lucky1" One day you'll tell us your secret. :silent: Barb

Some kind of shamanism? What's happened to my palms (etc...) this Fall. As you know I went to my North America voyage on November 11th and came back on November 23rd. Usually I start making a winter protection for my Exotic plants on the end of November-first days of December... But those days before I went to NA I was having a feeling that I MUST do everything before I had started my travel... I was surely right, everything has been done in time. That night I came back home it was minus 13C... Shamanism?

I do spend a lot of time with the palms so they know me and grow anyway 😀

The smaller Fortunei I was referring to early with the closed leaf has pulled
all 4 leaves as suspected......I used to not really post this stuff because-

A.heartbreaking
B.doesn't look good 😉

Anyway-over that and feeling like it may help someone else down the road.

heres one thing that helps-catching it early,getting the spears out and getting
it treated with dry fungicide....this way,the cavity is open and air can get in,
if not-think about all the moisture in there all winter/combined with the heat
that builds up during late winter in the enclosures= rapid pathogen growth.

As it is,this palm may retain the leaves it has,whereas if left plugged over winter...
I would probably be trunk cutting again.

Heres a picture of it I just took

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pulled all 4 leaves as suspected.

How disappointing.

helps-catching it early,getting the spears out and getting
it treated with dry fungicide....this way,the cavity is open and air can get in,
if not-think about all the moisture in there all winter/combined with the heat
that builds up during late winter in the enclosures= rapid pathogen growth.

That info will help everybody, thanks Jim.

Now I get why you call it the Zombie zone.
So warm and then whammo a severe and unexpected freeze that confounds even the weather guys. 🙄
My Trachy grows best and fastest in the Fall.

Since palms are a member of the Grass family, there's no way to trick them into slowing down. 😐

Barb

One nice thing is that they all will retain a good amount of this years growth as of right now.

How did the rice paper plants do this year? Did they make last winter?

Jim, I feel your pain!

NS has had an above-average fall, until this past week. For the past few days, my area has been experiencing temps that we normally wouldn't see until Jan/Feb (the coldest time of the year here). It is finally starting to warm up again, but my yard saw close to 4 days of freezing temps. It hit -12 C (10 F) on two or three nights, and I have protected NOTHING! I'm sure that several potted plants must be dead, and others will be severely damaged.

No returning rice paper plants.

Yikes,10F was the temp(basically)that did mine in.

Keep an eye on the palms and watch for the tell tale closing leaflets....

We haven't had a freeze here yet this year. We did have some frost, but now we are back up the mid to high 60's this week and lows in the 40's. I can live with this!!!! 😀