You expected P. roebellenii to be fine?
It's pretty tender.

Jim...you're thinning the herd.
Barb
😀

Barb-
the weather here does that for me,only the strong survive 8)

Erik

assuming you have enough to do without building some massive contraption
around your big Sabal......

I think just keeping the dry Arctic winds off it will be best,where did this palm
come from?
If it is from(grown in/near) your area you probably don't need to worry about the spear,
if it is from Florida(or the like)you may want to consider some kind of
heat focus on the spear below about 10(F)until late Jan-just depends on the winter we get.

I have a feeling besides a few(far between)cold snaps,you will be quite mild.

Erik bananas love heat and are very thirsty so just apply lots of water and fertilizer.

Mike perfect conditions to overwinter your plants. Lots of light and coolish temps, no need for much heat.
What a gorgeous front porch with the hibiscus pair; very welcoming! 😀
Barb

Thanks Barb!

Jim, look at your weather sticker! It's showing 0F 👿 What a Hell is that! I checked with a couple of forecast sites - you are OK!

Yea,I saw that too! 😀

It was actually 73f here(23c)and it said 0(F)

Igor, mine does that on occasion. I think it is a software "reset" mode by the person uploading weather data.
I'm pretty sure Jim is getting rain today! 🙂
--Erik

Jim,

Good thing it wasn't 0f or you itinerans would be in jeopardy 😯

ZERO!!!! 😆 😆 😆

Inside joke.

Bill

That was a good one!

That was the first thing I heard when I saw that temp......... ZERO!

They sailed through it.....mostly because it didn't happen 😉

BTW

To bad those aren't Itinerans,maybe that guy thought I was asking
what the chances where that they are Itinerans?????

%

ZERO!

I ordered some Itinerans (burmese blue). Some info says they can py pups out 10feet away from the mother plant:S

Still nice today...BUT 😯

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/fourteenday/cabc0312

Barb

dear god barb....... ill be praying for you and your plants 😯

Calgary is going to be -21 tonight :S We were -9C last night ( coldest temp by far this year), and my passiflora is STILL alive....... I wouldve thought the cold last night would make it look like a black soupy mess on the wall.....

their calling for the highs to be below 0 for the net week, with some nights going as low as -12, with one night being called as low as -15C..... Needless to say, the bamboos, and other things out there are going to be getting protected.......... i really hope temps dont get too hot after i protect them 👿

Oh, Barb! And Duncan!

I'm actively following this system. As of this morning, it looks like it will miss me, but the OK meterologists admit they are not sure.

As an example of what I am trying to figure out, here is the email the state climatologist sent out this morning to all us weather geeks on his mailing list. Most of it is over my head (omega blocks, NAO, AO, etc.; at least he tosses in a little humor:
Oh wait, the punchline! A La Nina, an Omega Block and the Arctic Oscillation
walk into a bar and the bartender says "what is this, some kind of joke?" )
--Erik

MESONET TICKER ... MESONET TICKER ... MESONET TICKER ... MESONET TICKER ...
November 18, 2010 November 18, 2010 November 18, 2010 November 18, 2010

The OCS/Mesonet Ticker: The best of climes; the worst of climes.

A La Nina, an Omega Block and an Arctic Oscillation walk into a bar ...

It has been sorta cold recently, although temperatures as a whole are still above
average for the month. But it appears as though we might be in for some actual
COLD air next week sometime. The buzzword is "omega block" and it's being thrown
about quite a bit lately.

An omega block is a somewhat-persistent upper-air pattern that sets up and
redirects the storm track around it. It got it's name from it's resemblance to
the Greek letter:

The block we are concerned with is setting up in a low pressure-high pressure-
low pressure pattern over Greenland. This type of blocking ridge over that
region can act as a funnel for arctic air, allowing the frigid air to slip into
the eastern half of the United States causing temperatures to fall well-below
normal. The NWS' Climate Prediction Center (CPC) has picked up on this and
given us a clue of what to expect (sorry for the shouting):

"ALL NUMERICAL SOLUTIONS ARE FORECASTING VERY PRONOUNCED NEGATIVE PHASES OF
THE ARCTIC OSCILLATION (AO) AND NORTH ATLANTIC OSCILLATION (NAO), WHICH
TYPICALLY MEANS BELOW-NORMAL TEMPERATURES OVER A LARGE PORTION OF THE
EASTERN (UNITED STATES)."

As a reminder, the NAO and the AO were key players (along with El Nino) in last
year's disgustingly cold and wet winter for the eastern half of the country (for
simplicity's sake, I'm going to stick with the AO and ignore the complex
relationship it has with the NAO, the real climate player in this scenario).
The values for the AO Index, which measures the relative strength of the AO,
during December were the most negative for that month since record keeping
began in 1950, and dropped to that level again during February. Here's a look
at last winter's AO index

and a simplified depiction of negative-phase AO effects:

The latest ensemble forecast for the AO index shows it headed into negative
territory for the next week or so:

The forecasts get pretty noisy after a week or so, because that's what forecasts
tend to do. But it's easy to see the downward trend in the index. The real
question now, however, is how much of that cold air will get shifted into the
Southern Plains and how much will be shunted off to the east. The CPC's 6-10
day outlook, valid for November 23-27, show the above-normal chances of below-
normal temperatures over much of the northwestern two-thirds of the country
associated with a probable outbreak of arctic air:

The 8-14 day outlook (November 25-December 1) shows that arctic air moving off
to our east with chances for normal temperatures in our area being equal
to above- or below-normal chances:

Precipitation chances for the two periods are somewhat mixed, but apparently
it's duck season (WABBIT SEASON ... duck season ... WABBIT SEASON, etc.,
spoiler alert: daffy loses) from November 25-December 1:

So there you have it - an attempt to forecast the weather for the next two
weeks using only climate tools. Doomed to failure and ridicule, you say?
Probably. The players are different this year with the influence of La Nina in
place of El Nino.But if that failure means warmth, I'm okay with that.

Oh wait, the punchline! A La Nina, an Omega Block and the Arctic Oscillation
walk into a bar and the bartender says "what is this, some kind of joke?"

Gary McManus
Associate State Climatologist
Oklahoma Climatological Survey
(405) 325-2253
gmcmanus@mesonet.org

November 18 in Oklahoma History:
Record Maximum 88 F at POTEAU (1930)
Record Minimum 2 F at KENTON (1958), PAWHUSKA (1903)
Record Precip 4.72" at SMITHVILLE (1969)
+Record Snowfall 12.00" at HOOKER (1948)
(Oklahoma History = since roughly 1895)
+ - May include hail or other forms of frozen precipitation

Calgary is getting COOOLD. We over here arent getting it as bad ( thank god for the lakes). Id be more worried about anyone south and west of me though....

Im following this system as wel, becasu were slated to get 30cm on snow over a 3 day period 👿 , with some cold weather...

Eric the weather network up here is saying you guys will be COLD from montana to north navada n texas, to the carolinas ( the mountains do a damn good job of funneling in the cold air dont they )

Man,I thought I went on a long time with out saying anything 👿

Jim,
do you mean me, or Gary, the OK state climatologist? (or both?) 😉
--Erik

All the weather forecasters,the models they use are all over the place,
unaccuweather predicted a big Arctic outbreak for this week..........

didn't see one,or any explanation why it didn't happen 😕