More severe winters does not signify its getting colder or an ice age. There is a noticeable warming trend over the last 100 years, more noticeable over the last 30. Europe is feeling like they are getting colder because those currents they depend on for warmth are changing (in other words, they are warmer then they "should" be given the latitude). The last bit of the article explains it:

""A lot of times people say, 'Wait a second, which is it going to be -- more snow or more warming?' Well, it depends on a lot of factors, and I guess this was a really good winter demonstrating that," Greene said. "What we can expect, however, is the Arctic wildcard stacking the deck in favor of more severe winter outbreaks in the future."

Agree it's brutal, Beny.
We don't get to benefit from the few "good" things about Global Warming, just the bad stuff.

Tough to plan when we're used to decent weather.

The last two years in B.C.--both March and April -- were terribly cold and windy.
Basically we have no spring any more.

Used to be T-shirt weather in March.
Now it's longjohns.

Ahh, the coming ice age. Here we go again!! I went to college in the early 70's and that was all we heard from all the experts. Guess what, they were wrong then and probably are now! Just relax and realize that no man really knows.

Plants and animals are a good indication:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/08/19/ns-animals-moving-north.html

I rely on the Indians.
How do they know winter's coming?

"White man putting up wood," they say.

(Sorry if anyone's offended by this non-politically-correct joke).

Plants and animals are a good indication:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/08/19/ns-animals-moving-north.html

Yes, but they are following their instinct...they know know how the big planet machine works. We re just starting to understand few things about this.
If the oceanic current conveyor stop, one thing we know is, the climate will make a drastic change. But guy's i hope it will not happen and we are wrong. Only the future will tell us that 😉

Ben

I rely on the Indians.
How do they know winter's coming?

"White man putting up wood," they say.

(Sorry if anyone's offended by this non-politically-correct joke).

This indian gave a good way 😛 (not offended)

Ahh, the coming ice age. Here we go again!! I went to college in the early 70's and that was all we heard from all the experts. Guess what, they were wrong then and probably are now! Just relax and realize that no man really knows.

I agree, they can't even get a 5 day forcast right. 😆

Ahh, the coming ice age. Here we go again!! I went to college in the early 70's and that was all we heard from all the experts. Guess what, they were wrong then and probably are now! Just relax and realize that no man really knows.

Well, I can see your stance on that. Back in the 70s, computer modeling wasnt the best, only due to the technology we had back then. We found out moe about our climate in the last decade then the last 3. Computer technology was aided my weather forcasters trying to get more power to deal with all the variables. Sure it isnt perfect, but computer power has gone up 1000 times since the 70s.

We are able to take in more data from further back and date things better as well.

There is also a difference between the weather forcasts we see, and the long term climate forcasts. The weather forcasts are based on information in a 30 year period. No wonder the forecasts are off! When compiling long term weather patterns, they usually input all the weather data they can find for that period.

Computer models can only use data from the past. In my humble opinion they can not predict (with any degree of confidence) what future changes might be (there are just too many variables involved). Just look what the 30 day European model was calling for 30 days ago (opposite of what is occurring). If we can't get 30 days right how can we get 30 years? I'm not saying we quit trying to figure things out,just saying we're not there by a long shot!!

Computer models can only use data from the past. In my humble opinion they can not predict (with any degree of confidence) what future changes might be (there are just too many variables involved). Just look what the 30 day European model was calling for 30 days ago (opposite of what is occurring). If we can't get 30 days right how can we get 30 years? I'm not saying we quit trying to figure things out,just saying we're not there by a long shot!!

Because that is usual misconception, for the reasons mentioned above. They use different data (generally), but still use information about the past. The difference is weather predictions on the weather channel are derived using 30 yr data spans, while climate data is using all available climate data for 100 000 - million year time scales or more. Sure its not perfect as we wont know everything about the past (yes variables, but computers can handle way more data then the 70s).

I dont understand why they use 30 year intervals in weather forcasting. It may have to do with sheer numbers (yes, variables :P) but they do long time scales when doing past climates...

They also draw parallels between warming now and past events. Here is a great National Geographic article about one of the warmest times in "recent" history:

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/10/hothouse-earth/kunzig-text

Can we put that "global cooling" myth on ice finally? Never was a consensus and was only a small minority of scientists who ever pushed this idea.

I'm getting tired of posting this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

Can we put that "global cooling" myth on ice finally? Never was a consensus and was only a small minority of scientists who ever pushed this idea.

I'm getting tired of posting this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

But its snowing in Boston 😯 (For the record, that is indeed sarcasm)

All right.

Gonna call it municipal cooling ... or "where's the freaking sun" from now on.

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Barb