Hi Jim,

If I post that on the hardy palm board there will be 200 responses and people will be killing each other. People are too sensitive. I think it's fun and educational to see all points of view. I really don't think ANYONE understands the climate system yet......not even close. I bet we won't understand in our lifetime.

I know,I was just messing with you...it's a little uptight over there. :tongue:

Regarding those smile face images.....I was dragging them into the message 😕

Look, it works now.....thanks Barb ❗

B'sides we're just friendlier here... :headbang:
and WE don't mind laughing at ourselves.

Thats why we like here. 😀

2012 Global Temps in at UAH........I don't think GISS or RSS have their 2012 temps out yet.

Globally, 2012 was the 9th warmest of the last 34 years, behind 1998, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, and 2010:

1979 through 2012, ranked from warmest to coolest:
1. 1998 0.419
2. 2010 0.394
3. 2005 0.260
4. 2002 0.218
5. 2009 0.218
6. 2007 0.202
7. 2003 0.187
8. 2006 0.186
9. 2012 0.161
10. 2011 0.130
11. 2004 0.108
12. 2001 0.107
13. 1991 0.020
14. 1987 0.013
15. 1995 0.013
16. 1988 0.012
17. 1980 -0.008
18. 2008 -0.009
19. 1990 -0.022
20. 1981 -0.045
21. 1997 -0.049
22. 1999 -0.056
23. 1983 -0.061
24. 2000 -0.061
25. 1996 -0.076
26. 1994 -0.108
27. 1979 -0.170
28. 1989 -0.207
29. 1986 -0.244
30. 1993 -0.245
31. 1982 -0.250
32. 1992 -0.289
33. 1985 -0.309
34. 1984 -0.353

The following comments are from John Christy:

While 2012 was only the ninth warmest year globally, it was the warmest year on record for both the contiguous 48 U.S. states and for the continental U.S., including Alaska. For the U.S., 2012 started with one of the three warmest Januaries in the 34-year record, saw a record-setting March heat wave, and stayed warm enough for the rest of the year to set a record.

Compared to seasonal norms, March 2012 was the warmest month on record in the 48 contiguous U.S. states. Temperatures over the U.S. averaged 2.82 C (almost 5.1° Fahrenheit) warmer than normal in March; the warmest spot on the globe that month was in northern Iowa. The annual average temperature over the conterminous 48 states in 2012 was 0.555 C (about 0.99 degrees F) warmer than seasonal norms.

Compared to seasonal norms, the coolest area on the globe throughout 2012 was central Mongolia, where temperatures averaged about 1.39 C (about 2.5 degrees Fahrenheit) cooler than seasonal norms. The warmest area was north of central Russia in the Kara Sea, where temperatures averaged 2.53 C (about 4.55 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than seasonal norms for 2012.

Compared to seasonal norms, over the past month the coldest area on the globe was eastern Mongolia, where temperatures were as much as 4.55 C (about 8.19 degrees Fahrenheit) cooler than seasonal norms. The “warmest” area was off the coast of the Antarctic near South America, where temperatures averaged 3.79 C (about 6.82 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than seasonal norms for December.

including Alaska

They should exclude Alaska.
What that would do to your numbers! 😯

There's a guy over at WXforum called "Scalphunter" from Alaska...35 below (F)!!!! in November 2012.
http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=16997.0

All the USA members of PN would be ordering Cyrtostachys and Coconut seeds... 😆

Barb

Hi Barb,

I see your 5F right now.............brrrrrr.........keep the cold out west!

Yup...it's here.
Bloody cold.

Temps dropped like a stone last night.
The dog doesn't even want to go out for a pee. 🙄

keep the cold out west!

Nope. 😉

Barb :verycold:

EDIT: just saw f/cast that ALASKA is getting really WARM, with rain and flooding expected. SHEESH!

it's been so warm here I dragged all my plants outside and watered them........they will be outside for the entire night.........the low is SUPPOSE to be 39F. Should I trust them?????? The other day they said the low was gonna be 29F and I didn't keep the 'hats' on the protection and I didn't turn the lights on for supplemental heat................guess what...........I woke up to 19F..........boy that blew..............I hope the Tetrapanex trunk is OK. 😕

PS, when dogs don't want to go outside you know it's cold! 😆

Should I trust them?????? The other day they said the low was gonna be 29F and I didn't keep the 'hats' on the protection and I didn't turn the lights on for supplemental heat................guess what...........I woke up to 19F.

Based on that record, NO. 😡

I hope you can find some old blankets to wrap around the Tetrapanex 😉

Barb

Hi Barb,

I can see your basking in the heat now...............up to 14F. 😆

Sorry but I have to rub it in. :bootyshake:

Yup...it's here.
Bloody cold.

Temps dropped like a stone last night.
The dog doesn't even want to go out for a pee. 🙄

Barb :verycold:

EDIT: just saw f/cast that ALASKA is getting really WARM, with rain and flooding expected. SHEESH!

looks like proof all our cold comes from Canada. 😆

all our cold comes from Canada

Yup.
And the best beer. :booty:

all our cold comes from Canada

Yup.
And the best beer. :booty:

You haven't tasted what's best, yet. Come to Poland 😀

Whoah Barb.... -21C?