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Zamia loddigesii
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:24 am
by Knnn
This is reported to be a somewhat hardy Zamia, some more info:
http://www.pacsoa.org.au/cycads/Zamia/loddigesii.html
Fresh seed,
A good cleaning, followed by a two day soak, seeds spread out about 10 per container ( these will be separated after the first leaves are up )
Cover with about 1/4" of mix.
Still too cold here to leave these in the green house, they will stay here for a couple weeks to get them started ( 90*F day time temps )
Steve
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:23 am
by lucky1
Steve,
Great germination contraption.
Palmtalk.org calls Z.loddigesii the Best Zamia
Barb
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:10 pm
by virtualpalm
lucky1 wrote:Palmtalk.org calls Z.loddigesii the Best Zamia
Barb
I often refer to this species as "bulletproof:"
http://www.plantapalm.com/vce/cycadstor ... tproof.htm
However, it is not the most cold-hardy cycad. It will definitely have problems with mid 20's F and with frost at any temperature.
Jody
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:21 pm
by lucky1
Jody, thanks for the link.
...a heck of a way to find out!
Rather than goofing, I bring them all inside before the first frost, some to a cold building and others to the warm residence. To me, they all appear so delicate.
Barb
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:27 am
by Knnn
Jody,
Thanks for the link! I heard a rumour a while back that Zamia sp. "Mexico" may get a name? Have you heard anything in regards to this?
Barb,
I can only dream about living somewhere with no frost
Steve
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:47 am
by virtualpalm
Knnn wrote:I heard a rumour a while back that Zamia sp. "Mexico" may get a name? Have you heard anything in regards to this?
I have not heard anything about this. The plants in this
Zamia sp. 'Mexico' group comprise a complex species complex (is that redundant?) that may represent a latitudinal cline of interbreeding populations and/or one or more hybrid swarms and/or who knows what. In Mexico there is a species complex within
Zamia that runs north and south up the Caribbean coast (=
Z. loddigesii complex) and another rather similar complex that runs north and south up the Pacific coast (=
Z. paucijuga complex). I believe the
Z. sp. 'Mexico' seeds/plants that people have obtained (directly or indirectly) from Montgomery Botanical Center here in Miami are part of the former species complex, but I am not completely sure of that. As you can tell, MUCH more work needs to be done before any kind of resolution or understanding of these groups will come forth.
Jody
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:10 am
by Knnn
Jody,
I thought this was interesting regarding the Z. paucijuga complex, and i would agree it is going to take a while to sort these out
The chromosome numbers of several species of Zamia from Mexico are reported, Z. paucijuga, distributed from central Oaxaca to Nayarit, has been found to have 2n = 23, 25, 26, 27 and 28. 2n = 28 is the highest chromosome number yet found in the cycads.
Link to abstract:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/p58 ... 5e223&pi=5
Steve
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:30 am
by Kansas
I talked to Robert Chumley about 2-3 days ago and he told me a very interesting story about the "Palatka Giant" and how it got there with the Indians and the St. John's River.
Virtual, I am sure you know all about it, but Steve & others, if your interested, give Robert a call. You will be glad you did. Very cool history lesson.
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:29 pm
by Knnn
Here is one that is just getting started,
Steve
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:44 pm
by Knnn
Noticed a few breaking the surface today,
Steve
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:47 am
by lucky1
Looks very robust at nearly half the seed thickness.
Barb
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:57 am
by Dean W.
Steve, your a pro!
Dean