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DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:34 pm

cuja1 wrote:Nice pics! Have you ever tried Agave utahensis kaibabensis? Is that an agave neomexicana in the picture?

I have tried Agave utahensis kaibabensis, but it last one year? Maybe if I got it to a bigger plant. I think I covered it also, still died. The one in the pic has been the only truly hardy agave I have. It is a hybrid between Agave utahensis and neomexicana. it does get damage, but so far has done better than all the others. I hope for seed one day.

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:07 am

DesertZone wrote:
cuja1 wrote:Nice pics! Have you ever tried Agave utahensis kaibabensis? Is that an agave neomexicana in the picture?
I have tried Agave utahensis kaibabensis, but it last one year? Maybe if I got it to a bigger plant. I think I covered it also, still died. The one in the pic has been the only truly hardy agave I have. It is a hybrid between Agave utahensis and neomexicana. it does get damage, but so far has done better than all the others. I hope for seed one day.

I got an Agave utahensis kaibabensis from Kelly Grummins (coldhardycactus.com) It was outside during last winter when we got down to -13 F and it survived. It didn't even get spots on it like my Agave neomexicana. It might have even been outside the winter before which was a really bad winter, I can't remember. They seem pretty hardy though.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:13 am

cuja1 wrote:
DesertZone wrote:
cuja1 wrote:Nice pics! Have you ever tried Agave utahensis kaibabensis? Is that an agave neomexicana in the picture?
I got an Agave utahensis kaibabensis from Kelly Grummins (coldhardycactus.com) It was outside during last winter when we got down to -13 F and it survived. It didn't even get spots on it like my Agave neomexicana. It might have even been outside the winter before which was a really bad winter, I can't remember. They seem pretty hardy though.
I'm sure they are very hardy, but I have yet to find one that wants to survive yet. Of course I will keep trying. I never give up because some individual plants just do better than others. This year I have planted yet another Agave havardiana, in hopes of finding one that likes it here.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:16 am

I have always wanted to try some of his amazing plants.

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:30 am

Great pics, hope you have a short winter.

Im glad someone is having luck with agave utahnesis. I planted my last one this year in 75% granite on a slope and it rotted before the end of September. I do still have a hybrid utahnesis var colorata that might fair better.

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:50 am

DesertZone wrote:I have always wanted to try some of his amazing plants.

I've been pretty happy with the quality. Have u ever tried opuntia basilaris? I was wondering how hardy they actually are.

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:10 pm

chadec wrote:Great pics, hope you have a short winter.

Im glad someone is having luck with agave utahnesis. I planted my last one this year in 75% granite on a slope and it rotted before the end of September. I do still have a hybrid utahnesis var colorata that might fair better.

You must get alot more rain than we get here. It probably goes without saying but i protect my agaves from moisture in the winter

Edmar · Post by **Edmar** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:19 am

Beautiful scenery Aaron! has the snow stayed or is it all gone by now? here in my place there's no signs of snow & the mild temps will stay until January.
Merry Xmas!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:47 am

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DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:56 am

Edmar wrote:Beautiful scenery Aaron! has the snow stayed or is it all gone by now? here in my place there's no signs of snow & the mild temps will stay until January.
Merry Xmas!

Thank you!
The snow was melted, but we have received more. As far as the over all temps we are just a little bit below normal temps. The plants are showing more signs of cold damage sense the last pics in my blog.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:19 am

cuja1 wrote:
DesertZone wrote:I have always wanted to try some of his amazing plants.
I've been pretty happy with the quality. Have u ever tried opuntia basilaris? I was wondering how hardy they actually are.

Yes, I have tried many. There are many to try from but only a few that I have found to be truly hardy. There is a close relative that is very hardy with many different flower colors. Opuntia aurea. But if you are truly looking for a hardy Opuntia basilaris, this one is the hardiest.

"Nye county NV." http://www.plantasiacactusgardens.com/p ... tures.html

This is one I bought years ago.

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:15 pm

DesertZone wrote:
cuja1 wrote:
DesertZone wrote:I have always wanted to try some of his amazing plants.
I've been pretty happy with the quality. Have u ever tried opuntia basilaris? I was wondering how hardy they actually are.
Yes, I have tried many. There are many to try from but only a few that I have found to be truly hardy. There is a close relative that is very hardy with many different flower colors. Opuntia aurea. But if you are truly looking for a hardy Opuntia basilaris, this one is the hardiest.

"Nye county NV." http://www.plantasiacactusgardens.com/p ... tures.html

This is one I bought years ago.

I love the cactus! I'll have to try one.

hardyjim · Post by **hardyjim** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:38 am

Awesome flowers!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:34 pm

hardyjim wrote:Awesome flowers!

Thank You

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:16 pm

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Henoh_Croatia · Post by **Henoh_Croatia** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:16 am

Very cool! Wild life also. Agave looks like utahiensis hybrid.Hope Y.brevifolia will recover in Spring without dying back branches.

Henoh_Croatia · Post by **Henoh_Croatia** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:25 am

I just read in older post that your Agave is hybrid between utahiensis and neomexicana. To the eye there is more utahiensis genes.Cool Agave.

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:53 am

Whats the coldest its gotten there this season Aaron?

I still dont understand the science about desert plants surving in the west but not the east. It looks like you guys get as much snow as we do sometimes.

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:06 am

Snow can act as an insulation. The main reasons plants are less hardy in the east is because of the amount of precip. If the plants are not hardened off they are not as hardy as possible. Also we tend to have warm spells were the plants are semi dormant and then the temps drop drastically. If freezing weather catches plants growing the growing buds of cacti or meristems of the agave can be damaged.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:21 am

chadec wrote:Snow can act as an insulation. The main reasons plants are less hardy in the east is because of the amount of precip. If the plants are not hardened off they are not as hardy as possible. Also we tend to have warm spells were the plants are semi dormant and then the temps drop drastically. If freezing weather catches plants growing the growing buds of cacti or meristems of the agave can be damaged.

So true.

cuja1 · Post by **cuja1** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:05 am

chadec wrote:Snow can act as an insulation. The main reasons plants are less hardy in the east is because of the amount of precip. If the plants are not hardened off they are not as hardy as possible. Also we tend to have warm spells were the plants are semi dormant and then the temps drop drastically. If freezing weather catches plants growing the growing buds of cacti or meristems of the agave can be damaged.

That makes sense. I thought it was just snow or freezing precip that caused death to the desert plants. That obviously can't be true seeing that desert places get snow.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:50 pm

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Henoh_Croatia · Post by **Henoh_Croatia** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:49 am

Thank you for update Aaron. Very unusual W. filifera with fussy leaves.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:29 am

Henoh_Croatia wrote:Thank you for update Aaron. Very unusual W. filifera with fussy leaves.

Yes, I hope to get seed off of it in the future.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:48 pm

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chadec · Post by **chadec** » Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:18 pm

Looks like mixed results, but for your zone I dont think its too bad. I am still surprised agave parryi and palmeri faired better than havardiana.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:18 pm

chadec wrote:Looks like mixed results, but for your zone I dont think its too bad. I am still surprised agave parryi and palmeri faired better than havardiana.

One day I'm going to find a hardy A. havardiana.

chadec · Post by **chadec** » Sat Mar 05, 2016 3:27 pm

They are funny. My oldest ( 6 yrs ) took more damage than ever this yr. Out of 3 first yr 1 didnt make it, 1 took alot of damage. Other one in raised bed came through with no damage.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Wed May 11, 2016 7:31 am

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Edmar · Post by **Edmar** » Mon May 16, 2016 8:16 am

Hi Aaron!
Great update as always, I see that you had a rough winter......here I also had lots of damage on my yuccas even though we had a "mild" winter but lots of freezing rain and now an usually cold spring with too much fluctuations between day and night.
I hope your plants recover rapidly & wish you a nice summer, thanks for sharing.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:15 pm

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Henoh_Croatia · Post by **Henoh_Croatia** » Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:37 am

Aaron, I hope your wife and daughter are ok now.
Garden is just amazing. What a great color of blooming Opuntia basilaris (?)

Best regards,

Mario

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:47 pm

Henoh_Croatia wrote:Aaron, I hope your wife and daughter are ok now.
Garden is just amazing. What a great color of blooming Opuntia basilaris (?)

Best regards,

Mario

They are doing well, thank you

Yes, some are Opuntia basilaris.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:49 pm

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igor.glukhovtsev · Post by **igor.glukhovtsev** » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:06 pm

Would you please specify were this "Warm water fish in the warm springs" is located? It's too funny seeing Eastern Africa Grate Lakes chichlid fishes in USA... Surprised!

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:09 pm

igor.glukhovtsev wrote: ↑Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:06 pm Would you please specify were this "Warm water fish in the warm springs" is located? It's too funny seeing Eastern Africa Grate Lakes chichlid fishes in USA... Surprised!

Sorry it took so long to reply.
They were in warm water springs, and that is how the alligators survives the winters also.

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:12 pm

Just an update to my Idaho garden blog.
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andym · Post by **andym** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:41 am

Hi Aaron... Nice to hear from you

Thanks for the update of your desert plants.That Rostrata/thompsoniana smaller plant on close examination has a lot of fine filaments in the plant so maybe some elata genes there. I do like the Agave Utahensis x Neomexicana hybrid.. might even survive here as not had success with pure utahensis. Yucca brevifolia looks great. I have one that has come through the winter here but completely dry

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Thanks again for showing

janci · Post by **janci** » Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:23 pm

Hello DezertZone,excellent reportage after winter

thank you very much

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