What Yucca is this?

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:16 pm

The seed I planted four years ago was aloifolia, but clearly this is not.
..flaccid leaves no filaments. Not a sharp tip. Suckered, in this planting there are five heads. Any idea what it can be?

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/seedscanada/9638811478/" title="Yucca mysteriosa 181 by seedscanada, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7361/9638 ... 0c6f_c.jpg" width="800" height="449" alt="Yucca mysteriosa 181"></a>
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rock is for scale, roughly 1"x2"x3" in any future pictures. Oh in background, two winters in ground is my Y 'big mama'.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/seedscanada/9621887277/" title="Rock for scale in pictures by seedscanada, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3820/9621 ... 08a0_c.jpg" width="800" height="449" alt="Rock for scale in pictures"></a>
My 'big mama' planted freshly from Tim's first fresh batch of seeds two years ago.
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.<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/seedscanada/9625122998/" title="Yucca filata 'Bigmama'144 by seedscanada, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7297/9625 ... 581e_c.jpg" width="449" height="800" alt="Yucca filata 'Bigmama'144"></a>

Benny, Northern Denmark · Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:15 pm

Adam,

Your plants looks great. But I have no idea what the first Yucca is, it's NOT aliofolia. Is the leaves serrated or not?

I have an advice for you. Plant your young yuccas deeper, when you plant them, this seems to make the plants grow faster, when they are planted too high they grow slower, and some plants might risk to tilt over, when they are blooming as mature later.

Happy growing

Benny

seedscanada · Post by **seedscanada** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:29 am

Thanks, Benny. There is no serration (yet?) on any leaf edges.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:33 am

Hi Adam,

yes that 'aloifolia' does not have many aloifolia genes in it......likely a hybrid with another east coast Yucca. Were the seeds from the 'aloifolia' you received small and thick?

The purple leaf Yucca next to the 'aloifolia' appears to have more aloifolia genes in it......does that have serrated leaf edges?

Your 'big mama' filatas look great. It will be interesting to see what they will grow into. There may be variations between seedlings too. Big Mama leaves get longer, wider and thicker the season prior to it blooming. The leaves on my Big Mama now are shorter, narrow-er and less rigid but next season it should be in 'full glory' again. Here's a couple photos from 1 minute ago.

Big Mama......not so big yet
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DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:46 am

TimMAz6 wrote: The leaves on my Big Mama now are shorter, narrow-er and less rigid but next season it should be in 'full glory' again. Here's a couple photos from 1 minute ago.

Did your "big mama" resprout from the trunk or from the base of the old trunk?

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:56 am

Hi Aaron,

the main trunk died on big mama after the bloom. 3 suckers emerged and I killed one trying to transplant it. Big Mama is difficult to propagate since the suckers are so close to the trunk and you can't get a section of root......perhaps now they are bigger and I can separate??

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:34 am

TimMAz6 wrote:Hi Aaron,

the main trunk died on big mama after the bloom.

That is too bad, do you think it will be a trunker? I do know mine is growing faster than the other filatas I grew from seed.

I see that my "big mama" has filiments and some of the other filatas dont.

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:45 am

Hi Aaron,

when Big Mama was in bloom I had other Yuccas blooming too.........and we have Yuccas moths. I recall Y. reverchonii-thompsoniana in bloom at the same time as Big Mama.....do you think any of your Big Mama seedlings have reverchonii-thompsoniana genes in them? That would be so cool. Can you post photos of the variations between seedlings?

DesertZone · Post by **DesertZone** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:48 am

TimMAz6 wrote:....do you think any of your Big Mama seedlings have reverchonii-thompsoniana genes in them?

Maybe that is why, or it could be that they are just young?

I wiil try and post pics before the end of summer. Once I get my camera back from across the state were I left it.

Henoh_Croatia · Post by **Henoh_Croatia** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:30 pm

TimMAz6 wrote:Hi Aaron,

when Big Mama was in bloom I had other Yuccas blooming too.........and we have Yuccas moths. I recall Y. reverchonii-thompsoniana in bloom at the same time as Big Mama.....do you think any of your Big Mama seedlings have reverchonii-thompsoniana genes in them? That would be so cool. Can you post photos of the variations between seedlings?

Hi Tim,

I got from you Y. filata 'Big Mama' 2011 seeds (thank you

and two seedlings have reverchonii-thompsoniana genes. They have serrated leaf margins.

Y. filata x Y. reverchonii-thompsoniana?

upper leaf Y. filata 'Big Mama', lower Y. filata 'Big Mama' x Y. reverchonii-thompsoniana?

all together

Best regards,

Mario

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:55 pm

Hi Mario,

WOW.....that is great news that some of the reverchonii-thompsoniana pollen pollenated 'Big Mama'. I will have to germinate some of that seed too since it's getting old now. That hybrid should be an interesting one! Also, the reverchonii-thompsoniana Yucca was the only Yucca with a serrated leaf edge to flower that season we know for sure that those are Y. filata 'Big Mama' x 'reverchonii-thompsoniana'.

Please keep the updates coming on this hybrid.

Benny, Northern Denmark · Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:31 am

Mario and TIM.

Great plant with a cool blue color, and lots of sprouts to propagate from.

I better check out my seedlings also

Maybe I am lucky too?

Have a nice day

Benny

TimMAz6 · Post by **TimMAz6** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:16 pm

I just checked my records and I also had a Yucca rupicola which bloomed when Big Mama bloomed in 2011. Here are a few photos. So, those Yucca filata seedlings must have been pollenated by rupicola or the reverchonii-thompsoniana.

<img src=http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/ ... 2c42f5.jpg>

I pollenated a couple of the Y. rupicola seed pods but they aborted and fell off shortly after this photo.

Henoh_Croatia · Post by **Henoh_Croatia** » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:02 am

Y. rupicola also have serrated leaf margins so if Y. filata 'Big Mama' was pollinated with Y. rupicola pollen that be also promising hybrid. Anyway I'm a happy whatever turn out to be.

Henoh_Croatia · Post by **Henoh_Croatia** » Tue Jun 03, 2014 4:01 am

Hello,

here is photo update of Y. filata 'Big Mama' x Y. reverchonii-thompsoniana? or rupicola?

and from same seed batch Y. filata 'Big Mama' x? without serration on the edge of leaves