Wondering if my banana is Musa basjoo

Banana Plants, etc

Moderators: lucky1, Alchris, Kansas, Wes North Van, Laaz

Post Reply
igor.glukhovtsev
Large Palm
Posts: 1181
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:33 am
Location: Almaty, Kazakhstan, Zone 6a, 43°15′00″

Wondering if my banana is Musa basjoo

Post by igor.glukhovtsev »

Last fall (2010) bought a banana plant to be sold as Musa basjoo.
It have being overwintering inside. Recently posted pictures of my plant at the Ukrainian myflora.org.ua. The guys doubt if it's a true basjoo. No pink midrib on the leaves. Any ideas what kind of banana mine is? Thanks in advance...

Image

Image

Image


<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... anguage=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Almaty, KZ" width="300" />
User avatar
hardyjim
Palm Grove
Posts: 4703
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:00 pm
Location: Fairfield Iowa 5b

Post by hardyjim »

Doesn't look like Basjoo to me,may be some type of Orinoco.
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... rfield.gif" alt="Click for Fairfield, Iowa Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" />
igor.glukhovtsev
Large Palm
Posts: 1181
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:33 am
Location: Almaty, Kazakhstan, Zone 6a, 43°15′00″

Post by igor.glukhovtsev »

Jim, thanks for wonderful finding! Will try to learn more about the Orinoco.
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... anguage=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Almaty, KZ" width="300" />
lucky1
Arctic Palm Plantation
Posts: 11325
Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:31 pm
Location: Vernon BC, Zone 5a or 5b (close to 6A!)

Post by lucky1 »

My musa's shredded leaves didn't look anything like your bottom leaf. :lol:

Your bottom leaf looks orderly, almost like a philodendron.

And musa leaves never get that luscious and wide.

It's a beauty.
Barb
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... anguage=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Vernon, CA" width="160" />


If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.
igor.glukhovtsev
Large Palm
Posts: 1181
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:33 am
Location: Almaty, Kazakhstan, Zone 6a, 43°15′00″

Post by igor.glukhovtsev »

hardyjim wrote:Doesn't look like Basjoo to me,may be some type of Orinoco.
Jim, wouldn't able finding your story about the Fairfield fruiting banana. What's going on with this guy?
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... anguage=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Almaty, KZ" width="300" />
User avatar
hardyjim
Palm Grove
Posts: 4703
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:00 pm
Location: Fairfield Iowa 5b

Post by hardyjim »

Still has fruit on it,hasn't changed much.
I will take some pics soon,it has just been such
a crappy year with cold and hail early,then hail
and then hot as hell,then back to nice with hail
and dry as a ******* bone the last 3 months.

At one point today the temp was 79F
Humidity 4%-Dewpoint -6F!

That is VERY unusual for almost anywhere
especially the mid-west!!!!!!!!


Most of my plants are burnt from heat or look like Swiss cheese!
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... rfield.gif" alt="Click for Fairfield, Iowa Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" />
User avatar
seedscanada
Small Palm
Posts: 623
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:37 pm
Location: Hamilton, ON
Contact:

Re: Wondering if my banana is Musa basjoo

Post by seedscanada »

[quote="igor.glukhovtsev"]Last fall (2010) bought a banana plant to be sold as Musa basjoo.
It have being overwintering inside. Recently posted pictures of my plant at the Ukrainian myflora.org.ua. The guys doubt if it's a true basjoo. No pink midrib on the leaves. Any ideas what kind of banana mine is? Thanks in advance...


Looks like my basjoos which have been outside for 3 years, zone 6b/7a.
Adam
Zone pusher7a. Trail runner, marathon racer. Propagator of Yuccas, palms and Pawpaws among others. World traveller. Language collector, lol.
Latitude: 43°11'00.000" N

https://www.instagram.com/adamseedscanada/
http://myworld.ebay.ca/seedscanada


<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/fin ... ipes"><img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... edState=ON" alt="Click for Beamsville, Ontario Forecast" height="90" width="160" />
canadianplant
Clumping Palm
Posts: 2399
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:41 pm

Post by canadianplant »

Id say its not a Basjoo. The giveaway for me is the non "droopy" leaves..

Image

How big is the one you have? It looks like 5 or 6 feet to me, but its hard to tell. Either way, the leaves look different compared to my small basjoo, and acuminata. It looks closer to my small musella..... But, once again, im not an expert
"The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results" - einstien

Check out my new Blog! http://canadianplant.wordpress.com/

<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/global/stat ... big2"><img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... /71749.gif" alt="Click for Thunder Bay, Ontario Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" /></a>
igor.glukhovtsev
Large Palm
Posts: 1181
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:33 am
Location: Almaty, Kazakhstan, Zone 6a, 43°15′00″

Post by igor.glukhovtsev »

canadianplant wrote:Id say its not a Basjoo. The giveaway for me is the non "droopy" leaves..
How big is the one you have? It looks like 5 or 6 feet to me, but its hard to tell. Either way, the leaves look different compared to my small basjoo, and acuminata. It looks closer to my small musella..... But, once again, im not an expert
Sorry Jesse, are you addressing to the seedscanada or to me?
Here are the pictures of my baby:


Image

Image

Image

Image
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... anguage=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Almaty, KZ" width="300" />
canadianplant
Clumping Palm
Posts: 2399
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:41 pm

Post by canadianplant »

Sorry, I was replying to your first post, and the pics on that.
"The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results" - einstien

Check out my new Blog! http://canadianplant.wordpress.com/

<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/global/stat ... big2"><img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... /71749.gif" alt="Click for Thunder Bay, Ontario Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" /></a>
lucky1
Arctic Palm Plantation
Posts: 11325
Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:31 pm
Location: Vernon BC, Zone 5a or 5b (close to 6A!)

Post by lucky1 »

Love the last photo, Igor!
:lol: :lol:

No matter the ceiling height, we'll all push it with our overwintered plants.
...Unless we place the plant on the bottom step of an interior staircase that wends its way up two or three floors...

Barb
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... anguage=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Vernon, CA" width="160" />


If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.
User avatar
hardyjim
Palm Grove
Posts: 4703
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:00 pm
Location: Fairfield Iowa 5b

Post by hardyjim »

You can easily overwinter that in your zone....
not now :wink:


I threw a 1/2 trashcan of leaves over some of
mine last winter(low temp was -8F)they came back.
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... rfield.gif" alt="Click for Fairfield, Iowa Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" />
igor.glukhovtsev
Large Palm
Posts: 1181
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:33 am
Location: Almaty, Kazakhstan, Zone 6a, 43°15′00″

Post by igor.glukhovtsev »

canadianplant wrote:Id say its not a Basjoo. The giveaway for me is the non "droopy" leaves..
Believe me my banana plant has the same special "droopy leaves" design once it gets to much sun on :roll:
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... anguage=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Almaty, KZ" width="300" />
igor.glukhovtsev
Large Palm
Posts: 1181
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:33 am
Location: Almaty, Kazakhstan, Zone 6a, 43°15′00″

Post by igor.glukhovtsev »

lucky1 wrote:Love the last photo, Igor!
Barb, hope you don't blame me for my dusty bachelor floor... Actually this so called library room is only the one in my house having a huge window... I understand a height is making the banana crying...
Jim, I'll leave it or them in the ground next year. This baby is my first experience ever growing any exotic plants. You have Florida "exporting" the tons of subtropical stuff all over the North America. We have only the Dutch suppliers and only one the monopolist selling just a few species of the such plants for the big bucks! That's why I have to be very frugal if I want to go on with the "exotic plants"... :oops:
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... anguage=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Almaty, KZ" width="300" />
User avatar
seedscanada
Small Palm
Posts: 623
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:37 pm
Location: Hamilton, ON
Contact:

Post by seedscanada »

Ok I agree, even MY basjoos have droopy leaves... that likely is not basjoo. The Florida nurseries commonly sell: zebrina rojo, cavendish dwarf, and misi luki. I have had all four including basjoo... and this reminds me of when my misi lukis were 10 feet tall with a trunk base 8 inches across... the leaves looked as in these photos. We too brought ours indoors overwinter.
Adam
Zone pusher7a. Trail runner, marathon racer. Propagator of Yuccas, palms and Pawpaws among others. World traveller. Language collector, lol.
Latitude: 43°11'00.000" N

https://www.instagram.com/adamseedscanada/
http://myworld.ebay.ca/seedscanada


<a href="http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/fin ... ipes"><img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... edState=ON" alt="Click for Beamsville, Ontario Forecast" height="90" width="160" />
User avatar
sidpook
Clumping Palm
Posts: 1545
Joined: Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:35 pm
Location: Zone 7b: Southern New Jersey (Philly region)

Post by sidpook »

Looks good Igor. You don't think they would have lasted outside? Did you leave any of the pups outside to overwinter?? Nice library too!! :D
Mike Trautner

<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... udubon.gif" alt="Click for Audubon, New Jersey Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" /></a>
User avatar
sidpook
Clumping Palm
Posts: 1545
Joined: Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:35 pm
Location: Zone 7b: Southern New Jersey (Philly region)

Post by sidpook »

Looks good Igor. You don't think they would have lasted outside? Did you leave any of the pups outside to overwinter?? Nice library too!! :D
Mike Trautner

<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... udubon.gif" alt="Click for Audubon, New Jersey Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" /></a>
igor.glukhovtsev
Large Palm
Posts: 1181
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:33 am
Location: Almaty, Kazakhstan, Zone 6a, 43°15′00″

Post by igor.glukhovtsev »

Thanks, Mike! Since this is my first banana ever I didn't leave any outside. Next year would once I'll get enough plants to be a right time for experimenting. The library... we sold the most of our books before the family moved to Canada. Not so many left.The only hardcover books I read are the English language ones about the plants lol. The others are audibooks I'm listening in the traffic-jams.
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... anguage=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Almaty, KZ" width="300" />
User avatar
sidpook
Clumping Palm
Posts: 1545
Joined: Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:35 pm
Location: Zone 7b: Southern New Jersey (Philly region)

Post by sidpook »

igor.glukhovtsev wrote:Thanks, Mike! Since this is my first banana ever I didn't leave any outside. Next year would once I'll get enough plants to be a right time for experimenting. The library... we sold the most of our books before the family moved to Canada. Not so many left.The only hardcover books I read are the English language ones about the plants lol. The others are audibooks I'm listening in the traffic-jams.
Traffic that bad there?
Mike Trautner

<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... udubon.gif" alt="Click for Audubon, New Jersey Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" /></a>
igor.glukhovtsev
Large Palm
Posts: 1181
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:33 am
Location: Almaty, Kazakhstan, Zone 6a, 43°15′00″

Post by igor.glukhovtsev »

Oh, yeah but improving slowly due to construction of new highways and interchanges.
<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... anguage=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Almaty, KZ" width="300" />
User avatar
sidpook
Clumping Palm
Posts: 1545
Joined: Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:35 pm
Location: Zone 7b: Southern New Jersey (Philly region)

Post by sidpook »

igor.glukhovtsev wrote:Oh, yeah but improving slowly due to construction of new highways and interchanges.
great!
Mike Trautner

<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/ ... udubon.gif" alt="Click for Audubon, New Jersey Forecast" border="0" height="60" width="468" /></a>
Post Reply