Phoenix theophrastii (Cretan date palm)

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Phoenix theophrastii (Cretan date palm)

Post by Laaz » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:15 am

I have had these in the ground now for three years from 1 gal pots. The leaves reach over 6 ft now. Here some photos I took today. I notice what looked like deformed leaves on two of them. Upon further inspection they are producing suckers... Now I have to decide weather to keep them as singles, or let them grow with multiple heads...

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Post by Dean W. » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:04 am

Laaz,

Great pictures, I wonder how hard it would be to dig out the suckers?

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Post by Laaz » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:27 am

Hi Dean. The suckers are not coming from below the soil. They are coming out between the fronds...

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Post by Dean W. » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:39 am

Hello Laaz,

I guess, I was refering to the last picture. Multiple heads, that would be a wierd looking palm though, I have seen a picture of one before. Now, I understand what you mean about the "deformed leaves".

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Post by Barrie » Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:43 am

Suckering is the natural habit for these palms, however some folks prefer to remove them and have a single trunk. Nice healthy palms there Laaz!

Cheers, Barrie

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Post by lucky1 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:14 pm

Cool! Weird! :shock:
It'll be great to watch this, Laaz. Pls keep updating pics.

With the size of those needles, are we sure it isn't blood, ha ha :lol:

I recall reading about a frond deformity that "resembled a ladder, where tips stayed connected up the 'rungs'."
It was due to a mineral deficiency. Which one, can't remember.
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Post by Wes North Van » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:41 am

Nice palms.
This species is suppose to be one of the hardiest in the Phoenix genus.
I tried some seeds but they didn't germinate.

I wonder with some protection from winter rains and on the coldest nights if it would survive here. My coldest temp so far this year is -3.2C.
Wes North Vancouver Zone 8b/9a
Keats Island BC Zone 8a
Palm Springs CA Zone 9b/10a

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Post by Barrie » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:59 am

Hey Wes ... I found them easy (P. theophrastii) to germinate but much more difficult to keep alive with our cold humid winters. I started with about 40 and today I have 4 remaining that have grown on to 2 gallon sized. I think I may have sold 3 others along the way. The growth spears pull and rot down in our winters, with the small exception here.

Cheers, Barrie.

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Post by Wes North Van » Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:53 pm

Even with overhead protection they won't survive?
Wes North Vancouver Zone 8b/9a
Keats Island BC Zone 8a
Palm Springs CA Zone 9b/10a

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Post by Barrie » Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:25 pm

Wes ... these never see a drop of rain or a flake of snow all winter. Humidity alone seems to be the culprit. Perhaps a copper fungicide regiment would help, but as I stated earlier, for some unknown reason these few exampes are fine, at least for now.

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Post by DesertZone » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:44 am

Laaz,
What zone are you in? Are those zone 8 palm? :?
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Post by Laaz » Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:17 pm

Aaron I'm in zone 9a, but they are hardy to zone 8a from what I'm told.

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Post by DesertZone » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:16 pm

Cool, thanks for the info :D
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