Aaron's first pic with a CIDP reminds me to post my CIDP pic.

Barb

Love your CIDP! I got five on the way and I am stoked! 😈

Very nice and hairy filiferas. 8)

Novice question: what is "CIDP"?

Erik,

Sorry...CIDP is Canary Island Date Palm.

Also sorry to keep hounding you on the wind thingy, but it can make the difference between a Trachy that survives the cold in winter and one that doesn't.
After all, if leaves are all shredded and torn, it'll take longer to recover from its winter beating. If it does.
They can handle cold. But not cold and high winds.
Just think of wind CHILL (on your skin).
Treat the trachy the same.
The burlap is good, but large cardboard (in dry areas), or an old carpet would be even better. You're right that the protection needs to be supported with stakes or else the whole thing could fall over.

Glad you put plywood over your butia enclosure; snow weight would've caved in the plastic.

Aaron, that CIDP I'm guessing is about 20+ years old and lives in a garbage can 😕
It's outside all summer, hot hot sun, drying winds from dawn to dusk.
Loves it (other palms would croak in that spot).
Canary island date palms are perfect in exposed locations, but I'd never try it outside in winter here.

Barb

They can handle cold. But not cold and high winds.
Just think of wind CHILL (on your skin).
Treat the trachy the same.
Barb

Plants react differently to "wind chill" than people.
First off ... wind does notchange air temperature. Wind chill factor is a formula which calculates the effect of wind and it's comfort level on us, warm blooded homosapiens.

Wind chill ... a term used to describe the rate of heat loss on the body resulting from the combined effect of low temperature and wind. As winds increase, heat is carried away from the body at a faster rate, driving down both the skin temperature and eventually the internal body temperature.

The temperature remains the same no matter how fast the wind speed, only our comfort level as humans is effected by wind chill. Plants have no warm blooded features so they can't "feel" the effects of wind chill like hunans, and are more adversely effected when winds are arid (low humidity). Low humidity and highwinds are drying and exhaust plants of leaf moisture, decimating plants that would otherwise survive calm conditions. These are conditions more common in continental or interior climates, whereas marine climates rarely have drying winds.

Cheers, Barrie.

Aaron, that CIDP I'm guessing is about 20+ years old and lives in a garbage can 😕
It's outside all summer, hot hot sun, drying winds from dawn to dusk.
Loves it (other palms would croak in that spot).
Canary island date palms are perfect in exposed locations, but I'd never try it outside in winter here.

Barb

Yea....I don't think most people would have much luck with a CIDP in the north west. I had one almost the size of the one you have and would leave it outside untill after Nov. 15, but by then most years it would defoliate completely. even in zone 8 they burn most years.

PS is your CIDP nicked named Oscar? 😀

Plants react differently to "wind chill" than people.
First off ... wind does notchange air temperature. Wind chill factor is a formula which calculates the effect of wind and it's comfort level on us, warm blooded homosapiens.

Wind chill ... a term used to describe the rate of heat loss on the body resulting from the combined effect of low temperature and wind. As winds increase, heat is carried away from the body at a faster rate, driving down both the skin temperature and eventually the internal body temperature.

The temperature remains the same no matter how fast the wind speed, only our comfort level as humans is effected by wind chill. Plants have no warm blooded features so they can't "feel" the effects of wind chill like hunans, and are more adversely effected when winds are arid (low humidity). Low humidity and highwinds are drying and exhaust plants of leaf moisture, decimating plants that would otherwise survive calm conditions. These are conditions more common in continental or interior climates, whereas marine climates rarely have drying winds.

Cheers, Barrie.

I agree, but plant tissue is damaged more easily in cold weather and the wind sure beats things up. Other than that I agree 100 percent. 😐

Barb, Barrie, Aaron,
thanks for the input.
As the photos above show, the larger fronds are very tattered. I could not get them wrapped up easily so they will stay out in the wind. If they survive, great. If not, the lower ones (now wrapped up--thanks, Barb!) will hopefully be enough to get new growth going in the spring.
I admit I do like looking out and seeing palm leaves moving in the breeze, even when there is snow on the ground. My other palms are either indoors or covered up and so invisible when I look out the windows.
I guess I also have to admit to having lost Trachys in the past. This one cost $125 and my wife will be mighty annoyed if I treat it like an annual.
Barrie, the winds here can be either maritime and humid or continental and dry. The humid air comes from the south, off the Gulf of Mexico. Those winds feel and smell wonderful even after blowing 1,000 km over Texas to arrive. The cold, dry air blows down from Alberta. That is the air that has been blasting the Trachy the past week. If the plant vascular tissue is still working, the ground under the snow is moist and above freezing. I hope that helps.
Speaking of snow, the drifting effect from Thursdays blizzard (Tulsa's first ever) left me with well over a foot in my tropical garden even as the pasture has just six inches. Hardyjim assures us that is a good thing as it keeps the cold, dry air away from the ground. Hope he is right. Snow is rare here so I don't know from personal experience.

Now you can have a good trip... 😉
Barb