Jeese, don't you have Robinia pseudoacacia in Thunder bay nurseries? Sorry for misunderstanding (Black vs Honey Locust). It seems the Black one should be common in SW Ontario... It's hardy down to minus 35C.

It happens!

I have never seen any locust here in nurseries. I dont believe i have seen any locust planted here either. Theres always time to start, I dont need 20 seedlings!

I have never seen any locust here in nurseries.

It's too bad. What particularly woodies do you have there (in nurseries)?

Hmmm... I have not had a chance to see some of them, but generally its maples (most common ones except big leaf maple (acer macrophylla) and Japanese maple)), ash, linden (basswood), choke cherry, dog wood, some oak, tons of pine and cedar, Fruit trees (apples, plum and pie cherry), ornamental pear (I have not seen a single production pear tree here, although they are supposedly hardy here), larch, aspen, willow, birtch (tons of birtch)... Here is a good list of the native species here, and other boreal forests!! (although, the forest a few km inland from the lake is mixed hardwood (maple, birtch, pine, oak etc)!!

http://www.borealforest.org/edresc.htm

You can be the Johnny Locust seed of your generation. 8)

You can be the Johnny Locust seed of your generation. 8)

There have been a couple trees that I thought werent here, but turned out to be everywhere..... either way..

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My giant sequoia had been planted outside at 14" tall/ 3 years old and received -17c temps a few times and had minimal if any damage. At 18"/ 4years old it experienced -20c and had even less cold damage. now it is 5 years/ 26" tall and our cold est day this year has been -12c and needless to say, zero damage.

Gleditsia triacanthos (honey locust) and Robinia pseudoacacia (black locust) are widely planted in the Niagara and Hamilton Ontario areas. They aren't too finicky with soils, establish well, and if I recall correctly, are tolerant of pollution. I'm sure I have a few thousand honey locust seeds in the garage and there is a black locust seedling growing near here near the sidewalk. I remember, big leaf, little pods (Robinia). Little leaf, yellowy; big pods (Honey locust).

The little Black locust at my gym, last tree to lose its leaves, this was taken Dec. 9 2011

Adam

Gleditsia triacanthos (honey locust) and Robinia pseudoacacia (black locust) are widely planted in the Niagara and Hamilton Ontario areas. They aren't too finicky with soils, establish well, and if I recall correctly, are tolerant of pollution. I'm sure I have a few thousand honey locust seeds in the garage and there is a black locust seedling growing near here near the sidewalk. I remember, big leaf, little pods (Robinia). Little leaf, yellowy; big pods (Honey locust).

The little Black locust at my gym, last tree to lose its leaves, this was taken Dec. 9 2011

Adam

I wasnt too sure if I should order honey or black locust. I guess the spines won me over 😀

Im going to use it as a "chop and drop" tree, or also called a pollard tree. Since black locust fixes atmospheric nitrogen, and also is concidered a "nutrient accumulator", I can use the cut branches, stems and leaves and mulch, which puts nutrients into the soil. Also, since it tends to sucker, especially when cut, I can cut down the saplings to use as poles and supports for plants. This will keep it small as well.

I know a few people who will take some seedlings. Im also going to give then to the local conservatory. They supply the city with some of their trees and plants (as well as having a huge ass tropical greenhouse!), and im sure they wont mind getting a few freebies!

I think we are all talking about Sequoiadendron's hardiness not Sequoia......Sequoia is much less hardy. I grew Sequoiadendron in Rhode Island and it's hardier than -20C. There's a specimen in Bristol, Rhode Island which was planted in 1911.......it's seen some pretty bad winter's. In a couple more years Jim's Sequoiadendron will be too large to protect.......we'll find out how hardy it really is!

Also, there are large specimens in Smithfield, RI and Glocester, RI which are colder locations (zone 5b/6a).

Im surprised I dont see more people on here growin dawn redwood (metasequoia glyptotroboides). Hardy to zone 4 or 5, is a real redwood, and ws brought back rom extinction!

I think we are all talking about Sequoiadendron's hardiness not Sequoia......Sequoia is much less hardy. I grew Sequoiadendron in Rhode Island and it's hardier than -20C. There's a specimen in Bristol, Rhode Island which was planted in 1911.......it's seen some pretty bad winter's. In a couple more years Jim's Sequoiadendron will be too large to protect.......we'll find out how hardy it really is!

Also, there are large specimens in Smithfield, RI and Glocester, RI which are colder locations (zone 5b/6a).

I didn't protect it last year,haven't this year either.

Thats right, mine is a giant sequoia (Sequoiadendron giganteum), not a coast redwood (Sequoia sempervirens).

Dawn redwood is nice and it is soft and it is neat, but it looks dead in the winter. My neighbour has one and planted it six years ago 8 feet from his house. A mistake in
my opinion, especially once he sees its size in another 4 or 5 years he wont be able to get into his back yard!

Adam

Hi Jim,

How much cold has your Sequoiadendron seen? It seems to be getting established now so I'd like to see a nice cold blast!

Thats right, mine is a giant sequoia (Sequoiadendron giganteum), not a coast redwood (Sequoia sempervirens).

Dawn redwood is nice and it is soft and it is neat, but it looks dead in the winter. My neighbour has one and planted it six years ago 8 feet from his house. A mistake in
my opinion, especially once he sees its size in another 4 or 5 years he wont be able to get into his back yard!

Adam

Wow thats dumb... They can get 8 foot trunks including the butress roots..... Not to good for the foundation either IMO. They have some big roots!

True they look dead in the winter, but it makes you appreciate it when it leafs back out!

Here are some updated pics of my bamboo seedlings. The first one is the Fargesia Spathacea. The second one is a pic of the shoots comming off of it. The third is Fargesia Yunannensis.

Nice work Jesse, coming along nicely.