I remember my B. eriospatha x Syagrus glaucescens F1 seeds ...
they arrived a year ago, and I'll be dead before the buggers germinate. 👿

Jesse, the Butia x Jubaea F2 is sooooooo interesting.
Any picture anywhere of which parentage their appearance leans towards?

I always hope the youngsters get the best of both parents.
But from the people I've met, I don't think that always works. 😆 😆

Please put me on your list for a seedling purchase in a year or two. :compress:

Nice specimens on your list.
Barb

I had sabal seeds take a year and a half. "Patience young skywalker" 😈

Here is the description of the Butia x ;

"An interesting hybrid produced by pollinating a female Butia odorata with Jubaea chilensis pollen. While overall rather similar to B. odorata, it produces a heavier trunk, stiffer leaves and shorter inflorescences. It shows excellent cold-hardiness but grows faster than a Jubaea."

Seems to take more after the butia with the exception of a MASSIVE trunk and longer leaves... And dont worry, youve sent me enough stuff, your name is already on one of the seedlings if they sprout!

ALso read this about that Euc!!!

"E. pauciflora regenerates from seed, by epicormic shoots below the bark, and from lignotubers. It is the most cold-tolerant species of eucalyptus, with E. pauciflora subsp. niphophila surviving temperatures down to −23 °C (−9 °F) and year-round frosts. It has been introduced to Norway.[4]""

Thats amazing!

-23C Euc?............when planted in a greenhouse. 😆 Does the seed supplier state where the seed was collected? The hardiest locations appear to be near the edges of the frost hollows of the high altitude plains not the mountain tops. I have a few seedlings from the Kiandra Plains (thanks to Cincy Frank). I will likely plant them outside this spring......see this article on the frost hollows....a great read.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc ="s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Frbgsyd.nsw.gov.au%2F__data%2Fassets%2Fpdf_file%2F0009%2F58536%2FCun7McD601.pdf&ei=xNhFUea1ELW14AOw84CQAQ&usg=AFQjCNGaWZo_eM-Y7H-4R14k8PIn7_gLHg&sig2=-cSLJ50Lx53T2G2RfVUjTA&bvm=bv.43828540,d.dmg"

or.....not sure which link works...

http://rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/58536/Cun7McD601.pdf

but grows faster than a Jubaea.

Steel girders grow faster than a Jub.

"heavier trunk, stiffer leaves" sounds like the male Jubaea is the boss in that union. 😀

If there were a -23C Euc, we'd be logging them.
Good luck.

Barb

This was rps and the collect from the wild up in alpine regions on tje boarder of victoria. The trees.see below.-15 regularly. Ill post more when.im off.work

Tim - Kew says -20C
http://apps.kew.org/trees/?page_id=115

also "E. pauciflora subsp. niphophila, syn. E. niphophila, with glaucous non-angular buds. This is found in the highest parts of the Australian Alps, straddling the Victoria - New South Wales border. In cultivation this tree has gained the Royal Horticultural Society's Award of Garden Merit."

RPS has a habit of collecting seeds from the wild, or properly identified garden plants as far as I know. I really hope those Eucs do well. So far it seems you may need to grab this one to give it a try. Thanks for the link too. 😈

Barb - I took a better look at some pics. They look to be pretty variable. Most seem to have the nice long leaves if the Jub.

Most seem to have the nice long leaves of the Jub.

It could be one heck of a good-looking palm.
Take good care of those seeds, Jesse... 😆 😆

Here are some more pics barb:

http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/Butia_x_Jubaea

More on the link......

Be still my heart 😯 😯

I said a few more... "colourful" words...

The one next to it (left) is a Jubea. I thought they really disliked heat, yet this is in socal?

really disliked heat, yet this is in socal?

They don't dislike heat, they just won't grow in, say, deserts like Washingtonia etc. where it's often 40C.
Jubaea seeds don't need extreme heat to germinate, often just letting the fluctuations of seasonal temp changes germinate them because they take a long time to pop.

The Jubaea's trunks (like in the photo above) always remind me of concrete hydro poles.
Almost looks too heavy for the leaf "burden" they carry.
That's what's so interesting about Jubaeas. 😀

Barb

OK barb I follow ya now 😀

Does anyone have any insight on germinating the jubea x? They look like theyre pretty big..

This guy cracks the seeds.

I tried that one year...hammer (inside a cardboard box) on a concrete floor.
Jubaea seeds are rock hard, wear safety glasses 😆
Still ended up with missiles flying all over the place.
The only 3 Jubaea seeds that germinated for me did NOT have this process done.

http://www.palmsociety.org/public/english/chamaerops/021_2.shtml
continued on the next page.

Barb

I think I remember pictures of the "aftermath". Maybe scarifying and a few day soak would suffice? Did cameron have a de lidding lesson on jubea?