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tropicman
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As anybody else in the surrounding area.
I have Mexican And Texas Sabal Palmettos,Trachycarpus Fort, Sabal Minors,Sabal Louisianans,Pindos Capitata,and Brahea Armatas,Also Washy Robustas and Filiferas,for cold hardy palms.
And on the tropical side,I have Kings,Queens,Chameadoreas,Fox Tails,Fiji's,Assai Euterpe Edulis, Phoenix Roeblenii,
and Florida Royal palms,these are the ones I can think of,off the top of my head,I'm sure I have many more of both.

 
Posted : 01/01/2011 7:58 pm
lucky1
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Ma&Pa nurseries that have been in town for many years have already gone under in the last couple of years,cannot compete with big box stores

Big box is winning here too.
But their penchant for "huge volume In/huge volume Out" makes me think their supply and price demands can push suppliers to the brink, as Tony implied in his newsletter.
Yet Cdn box stores still don't have the selection many Canadians want.
Mostly huge nurseries are represented (Monrovia? Costa Farms).

There are excellent nurseries all around Vancouver on the Coast.
But I've noticed that most no longer start their own annuals, likely a result of the price of natural gas for GH heating jumping dramatically a few years ago.
Plus labour costs.
Smaller margin when they bring in annuals from the big guys...then the box stores drop prices by 70% just to get rid of them.

If a Ma&Pa nursery had the tropicals I want, I'd shop there for sure.

If you were set up in Canada, Don, your GHs would empty as fast as you could fill 'em.
Hell, I'd camp in your driveway!

Erik...when you head to Don's, take a truck... :love10:

Barb

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Posted : 01/01/2011 8:17 pm
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Barb,
Truck--and the horse trailer sized for draft horses!
Don,
PM me if you want my email and telephone number.
--Erik

 
Posted : 01/01/2011 9:46 pm
tropicman
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Barb,
Its the same here,nurseries truck in there annuals,and with perrinals,I notice there taking cuttings and growing them on and not as ordering them as much as they use to,so you tend to get smaller one gallon plants now,than you use to get,which in turn might make them more hardier anyway than before,and there not carrying the selection of plants or the quantity they use to have on hand.
Same here box stores carry the same old same old,and don't bring in the more exotic plants that people want,I think that is why I seem to get more people knowing about me,I have sold and given a lot more plants away than I use to a few years back,word of mouth has really getting me and about with plant growers here.
Erik you really need to make a trip up,if I remember it took me about 3 hours to Tulsa,when I was living in Owasso!

 
Posted : 02/01/2011 12:40 am
lucky1
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re "not carrying the selection of plants", I think that has to do with the experience (or lack of it) of the people that do their ordering.
Or maybe they've been burned in the past with people bringing back stuff, demanding refunds, on varieties that were more difficult to grow.

I posted this pic of big box RONA some time ago during a trip south to Kelowna, congratulating them on THEIR selection.
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It was rare to see so many species in that store; their sister store in my town uses their same-size greenhouse for...of all things....off-seasonal storage 😡
The only reason I didn't buy anything that day is...as the years have gone by...I've got one of most of what they're offering.

more exotic plants that people want

Exactly, Don.
Plus you didn't set out to make it a business, it just grew out of your love of tropicals.
I find when the almighty dollar isn't the FIRST goal, you find a market niche and success almost as an afterthought.
Between you and Steve (KNNN), you could supply all tropical plant hobbyists with the species they seek.

Too bad there's a border between us--and the resulting phytosanitary "plant passports"--horrendous costs and delays associated with that.
I'd be your (and Steve's) best customer. :toothy7:

Have you considered approaching your city's Chamber of Commerce re adding a link to your palm sales page.

I have sold and given a lot more plants away than I use to a few years back

You're just making room in your GH so you can start more... 😆 😆

By the way, did you get any of those black plant containers you were looking for?

Barb

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Posted : 02/01/2011 12:10 pm
tropicman
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Funny how things work out,no I didn't want or need to start a business,but you plant 100 seeds thinking you might get 10 to pop and you get 90 to germinate,and after several different varieties you got so many plants you don't know what to do with them all.
No I haven't even thought about getting in touch with Chamber Of Commerce. something to ponder about!
No I haven't ordered any more plastic black nursery pots,I think I pay about 36 cents a piece,including the shipping cost.
I was looking to see if I could find them a lot cheaper some where.
I normally buy 200 at a time.

 
Posted : 02/01/2011 3:32 pm
lucky1
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you plant 100 seeds thinking you might get 10 to pop and you get 90 to germinate,and after several different varieties you got so many plants you don't know what to do with them all.

Sounds familiar... 😕

Some stores give away those black plastic pots from their floral department's fresh flower section.
Too bad not your store.

36 cents...wow that's like back in the 70's!

Barb

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Posted : 02/01/2011 3:50 pm
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