what does everyone heat their house with?

Electric baseboards, but never use them.
Too expensive at approx. 8 cents/kWh (a higher rate kicks in if you go over 1,350 kwH/month usage).

Airtight woodstove (Pacific Energy Co. "Summit" model) in basement heats the entire house...warm floors/walls = very comfy.

As long as my firewood supplier (birch) doesn't move away.
Use 5+ cords of birch in 5 months.

...oh, and the palm huts are electricity 😆 😆
and bags of leaves.

Barb

EDIT: forgot to say natural gas isn't available in this area. no furnace anyway.

green is good but we must transition to green in a manner which won't cause economic turmoil. There seems to be a perception that if we lower man made CO2 emissions that climate change will 'stop' or won't change. This perception needs to change. Man does not control climate change.

What's the plan when sea levels rise another 10 feet? :dontknow:

What's the plan when sea levels drop 300 feet? :dontknow:

What's the plan when the next ice age comes? :dontknow:

What's the plan when the next mega-volcano hits Wyoming? :dontknow:

What's the plan when the next huge meteor hits? :dontknow:

All the occurrences listed above happened without man made CO2 emissions and WILL happen again.

Just for fun what does everyone heat thier house with? 😐

I use electric, but I want a wood burning stove in the future. Burning wood by the way is a comeplete carbon. 😉

green is good but we must transition to green in a manner which won't cause economic turmoil. There seems to be a perception that if we lower man made CO2 emissions that climate change will 'stop' or won't change. This perception needs to change. Man does not control climate change.

What's the plan when sea levels rise another 10 feet? :dontknow:

What's the plan when sea levels drop 300 feet? :dontknow:

What's the plan when the next ice age comes? :dontknow:

What's the plan when the next mega-volcano hits Wyoming? :dontknow:

What's the plan when the next huge meteor hits? :dontknow:

All the occurrences listed above happened without man made CO2 emissions and WILL happen again.

Glad you asked-

1.Move out of Florida

2.Move back to Florida

3.Buy a warmer coat

4.Back to Florida again

5.Always bring a baseball glove,like at the ballgame-b-ready

6.Hopefully it doesn't happen all at once but I will have my ball glove ready 😉

green is good but we must transition to green in a manner which won't cause economic turmoil. There seems to be a perception that if we lower man made CO2 emissions that climate change will 'stop' or won't change. This perception needs to change. Man does not control climate change.

Even if every single person on this planet disappeared and we stopped putting CO2 in the atmosphere, it would take 20 years for the planet to stop warming, and another 50 - 100 years to even make a mark (forests need to grow to absorb and deposit carbon in the ground, rather the atmosphere).

And most people will at least agree, that we arent helping warming trends at all.

Also, LOL Jim. I hear Florida is the cause, and solution to some american problems 😛

What's the plan when sea levels rise another 10 feet?

Desalination plants = irrigation water for dry interior plateau 😆

EDIT:
Here's the UK's "make it a contest" solution:
http://www.climateweek.com/awards/ 🙄

Barb

So it looks like fracking isn't 100% safe 😯
It looks like another battle between the greens and the fracking movement over here. There is certainly a public revolt gaining ground regarding the imposition of Wind Turbines here.
There appears to be a blinding belief by our brain washed politicians that the Turbines can replace fossil fuel power stations, many of which are due to be decommissioned by orders of the EU. However someone didn't tell them that they would have to build more gas powered stations as a back up for when the wind stops blowing 🙄 Such is life.

114-page Study just released "Impacts of Climate Change":

http://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/climate/pdf/NSF_Climate_Change_Report.pdf

public revolt gaining ground regarding the imposition of Wind Turbines here.

I've heard that complaints in Scotland ended as soon as everyone was offered a new TV from the wind turbine companies. 😉

Newer PN members may not know that I installed a 10kW wind turbine on my place a few years ago.
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Based on its production numbers (despite the manufacturer's and installer's claims), it amortizes out to about 250 years disgust

But it feels good to have it.
As I load another log into the woodstove... 😆

Barb

Another one:

Fracking to blame for well blow-out: http://northerninsights.blogspot.ca/2012/12/nothing-can-go-wrong-nothing-can-go.html#comment-form

Seems mankind's intent on destroying "down below", after we've done quite the job on the surface. 😥

Right on Barb

There was once a man who came to town here.....

his name was Maharshi Mahesh Yogi and he said that one day palms would grow here.

I feel this is already come true-just look at my yard 😀 he was talking big picture though...I think.

He also said that there is a special place in hell for these people,I hope that is true,all to often I want to send them there myself.....

It's the loss of control to protect the land and creatures for everyday ordinary people like us that has been lost.
That is, if we ever had it.

We can stand on the street and protest all we want...the power-brokers simply give us lip service.
And then continue what they were doing.
I rarely even watch the news anymore.

"Public hearing closed," they say, and that's the end of our input.
Decisions between industry and government had already been made.
Presto...leaky pipeline in place.

It's things like Monsanto suing a little old farmer in Saskatchewan because HIS non-GMO crop was contaminating THEIR GMO crop!!!

Glad Mr. Yogi had some impact with his palm forecast, Jim 😆 if his predictions come to pass, you'll have started it in Iowa.
Attaboy. 😉

Barb

Barb....

Is that all your property?

Property ends at about 300 feet up the hill from the turbine...
which is a good thing, 'coz the slope is almost vertical beyond that 😕
Makes for some interesting avalanches. 😯

Our mule deer have shorter legs on the uphill side :bs: :happy5:

Barb

He also said that there is a special place in hell for these people

What people was he talking about, people that use natural? Or the people that have natural gas shares, like so many in this country with retirements? 😕

cool turbine Barb! So that's how you keep all those plants warm in winter! 😉