I have a chameadorea cataractarum, it bloomed once for me. When you find the right spot it gorws well.

Eric, You should try the arborescent type of radicalis.... C Microspadix ( also called bamboo palm), can take -8C for prolonged periods unharmed, id try that as well. It needs a sheldered location in shade......

Nothing on my radicalis seeds yet 👿

I tried to order a C. microspadix from Junglemusic but Phil was out. Maybe next year.
I want to see if I can keep these C. radicalis alive first.
I might also just get a cat palm and plan on it living in a pot. I have two other Chameadorea species in pots in my collection of "indoor palms." Accurate, as the potted ones had to come inside for Summer here! 😆
--Erik

Exactly...... I have about, 13 seedlings of chamedorea lanceolata (ivowowo palm), and 6 seedlings of dypsis arenarum. Rare, and yes once again sexy palms LOL. IF my radicali sprout that will bring me to.... 4 kinds of Chameadorea. Then again i got like 100 houseplants......... and growing, i think i buy a plant every week or 2 now.....

OK John, good news.

That last "Fishtail" was there, so I got it for you.

Wondering why I put Fishtail in quotes?

The HD nursery supplier, Rainbow Greenhouses (from the Coast) rep Debbie was there.
I told her I bought the twin to this "Fishtail" last week.
She said "that's a Foxtail, so was the other one, that was on the invoice from Costa Farms."
F O X T A I L S- S E V E N- F E E T- T A L L :occasion5:

I told Debbie about Palms North and she said "Oh yes, I've been on there looking stuff up!"

I also suggested HD bring in some Needle Palms, they'd grow in the Okanagan for sure.

Barb
PS--I'll deliver it when the weather warms...in 2025 😆

That is great news!
Very cool 8)
I grumble about HD sometimes (e.g., when they left 100+ palms outdoors last winter, all of which died) but they are so large that they can get things shipped. I got my needle palms from them, for example, quite cheaply. So, keep working that new connection. --Erik

Barb that`s great you picked up that palm for me.Thanks. What was Debbie`s response to Needle palms being shipped to Vernon? I`m still waiting for a response from head office Rona stores Canada re: Sabal minor,Trachy`s,Needle palms for the Okanagan. Their main supplier is Costa nursery farms. http://www.costafarms.com/Public/PlantLibrary.aspx?Letter=S http://www.costafarms.com/Public/PlantLibrary.aspx?Letter=R

John

Debbie seemed interested that Needle Palms would grow here.

I looked up Rainbow-anything on the net, a couple of small nurseries?
Asked Deb for a business card; she didn't have one.

Maybe we should tell CostaFarms that Needle Palms should go into all Canadian HD stores...

Back to the palm...I'm absolutely blown away that they're Foxtails.
Can you tell the diff between a foxtail and fishtail?
If they were older it'd be easy, but I can't distinguish between them at this size.

Oh...Now that I have a 7 foot Wodyetia, I remembered I have ~25 of 'em in the basement sending out new leaves. :laughing6:

And our local letter carrier phoned to say a package of seeds has arrived, they've got it back at the post office "where it's warm".
Nice guy, huh?
Thanks for the Chamaerops seeds, today planted in a community pot.
Yippee, stuff to do so I can ignore the weather. :bigsmurf:

Barb

If you guys can convince all canadian hom edepot stores to carry needle palms, that would be awsome LOL. They dont even have anything really interesting at the one in my city.....

You can uaualy tell the difference between a foxtail and fishtail by the trunk. Caryota mitis has a white or grey trunk, especialy with age.... As far as I know foxtails have a more traditional trunk.. Id just looks up pics of both palms and check out the differences. And you know, retailers and other places can be notorious for misnaming palms and houseplants.

Guess I've gotta rename this topic (now that it's proven to be a FOXTAIL :bounce: versus a FISHTAIL :blackeye: ).

tell the difference between a foxtail and fishtail by the trunk

That only works on specimens that are old enough to show mature trunk color.

The ID/difference thingy drove me crazy so I researched it last nite until I got the hang of it.
Now I think I could tell the difference on every Foxtail/Fishtail once they're beyond strap leaves!!

Here's the answer, some of it from: An Encyclopedia of Cultivated Palms (Riffle and Craft):

All forms of Caryota (Fishtail) are bi-pinnate leafed. Some say it resembles the greenery on a carrot, which isn't just leaves on a main stem, but leaves on little stems on more little stems attached to the main stem. The technical explanation is:The primary leaflets have been replaced by separate and smaller stalks that then bear leaflets (with or without individual stalks). But don't confuse the appearance with "alternating" leaflets, which simply means the leaflets are not attached to the rachis directly opposite one another, but in a more staggered manner.

Wodyetia (Foxtail) are pinnate leafed, which means more than 3 leaflets growing from a central axis (rachis), whether on opposite sides or on a flat plane. Wodyetia doesn't grow leaves on a flat plane, but are plumose (all the way around--in a boa-like appearance).

That encyclopedia is wonderful (I should read it more often).

Deb was right. I definitely bought 2 FOXTAIL--not FISHTAIL--palms at HD.

...and yes, I'm going to hound HD to bring Needle Palms into Canada.
We'll see if HD is more "approachable" than RONA. :thumbup:

Barb

Took a few months for the big Foxtailto put out a new frond.
(I really should change the topic from Fishtail).

Now I know why some people think the leaves look like they've been vandalized 😆 😆

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Looks like a roll of crepe paper, LOL.

And then one day the ugly duckling looks like this: :love4:

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BTW, John, how is yours doing?

Barb

Thanks for the update.
There is an ugly-duckling specimen at the nursery where I work. I think I am the only one there who knows what it could look like, eventually.

I've picked up many ugly duckling plants in sale/clearance bins.
With a little TLC--and a heck of a lot of satisfaction--they're among my most cherished plants now.

Barb

Very nice barb!

It's look'n happy!

I couldn't resist this $40 gem at HD today:
Nice to see a Canadian HD stocking something other than Majesty Palms.

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Barb

I was thinkinking it looked like Foxtail when you first posted pic.

Barb I need your help!

I potted up my Foxtail seedlings and they are not growing and the green has faded to brown. They are in my house, temp is about 70F and out of direct sun. I just put plastic over the tops to help keep in the moisture.
Thanks
Paul