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lucky1
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Last summer after I repotted it, a nasty windstorm nearly broke it off and left the palm bent, with exposed roots.
Rather than just throwing more soil over the roots, I gently tried to get it back to vertical. Didn't work. If I try to move this palm even one inch, I hear a cracking noise, probably roots breaking?
I also don't know ID of palm.

Thanks in advance for any advice.
Barb

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Posted : 25/02/2007 12:50 am
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Barb that looks like a CIDP. If you leave it like that it will develop a curve in the trunk. You are better off repotting it so it it upright.

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Posted : 25/02/2007 7:41 am
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CIDP. (Canary Island Date Palm) or Phoenix canariensis.

Cheers, Barrie.

 
Posted : 25/02/2007 11:46 am
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My opinion on what I would do is that I would find a bigger pot, repot it to where it is standing straight up. Now when you do this, do not take the old soil off. Just lift it out of the pot right now, and lay it in the new pot soil and all.
If you do this, the hard part is going to be getting soil in the "short" side as this palm when repotting is extremly sensative to air pockets. Make sure you get all the air pockets out and keep all the old soil right where it is on the roots.

 
Posted : 25/02/2007 11:55 am
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Gosh, I've been dreading that THAT would be the answer!
It's so heavy...That'll be a two-person job for sure.

It will be tough to get enough soil under the "tipped part" to get it back to vertical, and remove all the air pockets. I imagine using a stick to poke soil into the odd angle under the roots might be one way.

Before the windstorm hit, I had JUST repotted it with all new soil into this new huge pot (the pot is about 30 inches tall).
My gut feeling is to let it be and see if the curved trunk becomes a lovely feature. (OK, I'm lazy). But I'll do as you folks suggest once I find a willing helper. I'd better stock up in with bandaids!

Thanks for the advice and ID.

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Posted : 25/02/2007 2:26 pm
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I took some pics of curved trunk palms at Treasure Island while we were in Vegas. I'll post them for you later this week. The palms look like a CIDP, at least to me.

Allen

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Posted : 25/02/2007 2:51 pm
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Well, alchris, I'm gonna wait to see your pics 😕 'coz I'm dreading doing this job...

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Posted : 25/02/2007 2:57 pm
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Oh!!! Don't get me wrong, if you want the curved trunk look then by all means YES!!!! I too love the curved look. If it is doing great now, and you don't mind the curve, then I'de leave it alone.

 
Posted : 25/02/2007 3:21 pm
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Barb. This is what the right conditions & 100 years will have your CIDP looking like if left at the angle it is at 😆 😆 😆 😆

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Posted : 25/02/2007 4:42 pm
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Here is the Treasure Island picture.

I think that bent trunk palms are unique.

Allen

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Posted : 25/02/2007 9:50 pm
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ha ha, both of you! I don't want it to fall on me in 100 yrs when I'm riding by on my skateboard. 😆
Great pics, thanks.

Re the CIDP ID...(Houston, I think we have a problem).
Remember the palms I bought at the nursery the other day? One was ID'd as a CIDP. And my problem palm, you folks ID'd that as a CIDP too. They're definitely not both CIDP.

The recently purchased one is this first one...it's really soft on the fingers:

My problem palm is this one, and it would cut your face to shreds if you stuck your head in to look at the crown.
And near the crown there are very sharp and spiky "needles", they'd poke your eyes out!

There's nothing soft about it...you can really see them sticking up here:

So folks which one is the CIDP? the soft cuddly one or the one I need to buy bandaids for when I'm repotting?

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Posted : 25/02/2007 10:52 pm
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The first looks like a Parlour Palm, the second is the CIDP with the stiff fronds bent over.

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Posted : 26/02/2007 6:57 am
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I agree with Laaz , the first is the Neanthe Bella aka Parlor Palm and the second is the CIDP.

Kent in Kansas
where it's cold in winter (always)
and hot in summer (usually)
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Posted : 26/02/2007 10:28 am
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OK thanks folks, now I'm clear on it, and will re-label my stored pics.

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Posted : 26/02/2007 11:04 am
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