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(@kansas)
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The wife got her bonus check this week and she TOLD ME TO BUY IT!!! So she wouldn't have to look at another "Gawd Damn Palm Tree Again!!!!!" 😆
She told me to buy it and if I didn't, she was going to. So I bought the "Harbor Freight" one. I just got the 8' - 6'. I know you all told me to buy the bigger one, but shoot, as many darn palms as I have lost this winter due to dry air and lack of circulation, shoot I will have PLENTY of room.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47712

Before I get started putting it up this weekend, is there anything I should know??
And will it be OK to put all my palms in there as long as I put a heater in it??

 
Posted : 18/01/2007 5:42 pm
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Hey Kansas,

Where do you plan on setting it up...?

Hopefully that holds all those fine specimans you have...I'd use a small space heater aimed at a large pail of water for the humidity...and of course..grow bulbs...

Should be fine...That should keep you busty till spring..

Tell your wife to look at the brite side...now you can grow your own stuff...

PS: post some pics when you get it set up...

Palmettoman z6-Ajax..

 
Posted : 18/01/2007 7:00 pm
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Spot I have picked out is the biggest problem. I want to put it in a spot that gets the most sun. However, that would put the Robusta I have planted in the ground right in the middle of the doorway. I could move it to where it would be in the middle of the GH, but that would ruin my whole purpose for planting the Robusta (passer-bys-looking at a palm in Kansas).
So I'm not sure where I want to put it.
The heater with water is the best way I can think of too with a fan blowing of coarse. I am REALLY going to need you guys help with advise too.

 
Posted : 19/01/2007 8:09 am
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Congratulations. Dam I want one of those things so bad. You probably know this, but gardenweb has a greenhouse forum where people discuss the HFGH in depth. They have lots of advice and pictures to help with construction. check it out. I think the directions that come with the GH are screwed up. There are updated ones on line that are more complete. Anyway have fun.

Kent in Kansas
where it's cold in winter (always)
and hot in summer (usually)
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Posted : 19/01/2007 10:16 am
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Kansas do they keep these in stock ? I have a HF right down the road from me. Have a look at this model...

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93358

http://citrus.forumup.org/

 
Posted : 19/01/2007 11:50 am
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Kansas,
Congratulations! As Oppalm suggested, some of the quirks of the HFGH are described in more detail on the GW board. I'll show you a couple things done with mine. These may not be correct for what you want to do with yours but may give you some ideas.

Siting is probably the most important and long lasting decision you will have to make.
Mine is South facing to receive full sun in the Winter, During the warmer months decidious trees provide shade.
Keeping things cool during a Kansas Summer is tough, You can always use shade cloth too.

Actually planted some more trees in front here to help.

Winter Heat ~ Electric ceramic heaters have been working well here, On the bottom shelf is a B&D 1500W utility heater that has handled the majority of heating needs this Winter.
I also load up the GH with water jugs, retains some heat due to added mass. The biggest benefit seems to be the moderating effects as to temp. swings.

Humidity ~ A bucket of water with a heater aimed at it is a good idea! Here I sunk a small tote in the ground to achieve the same effect.

Shelving ~ Wire mesh on a wooden frame, or set up on blocks,etc

Air circulation ~ Just been buying the cheap fans, these do run 24/7 and last about a year or two.

Even pulled some out of the old 'fridge. (upper right corner)

Be sure to give some thought to venting and an exhaust fan for this Summer. Wireless thermometers and automated controls are nice too. Wish I had some 😆
Things can be as elaborate or simple as you like, Best of luck with it !!

Steve

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Posted : 19/01/2007 11:50 am
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Congradulations ! now you can have fun with you plants all winter long.

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Posted : 19/01/2007 11:54 am
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OP, Thanks a million for the heads up on the directions. I am having a buddy that lives for this kind of stuff help me as I can't even figure out those dang shelves you buy at Wal Mart.

Laaz, Yes, they did have these in stock. The one you had linked was actually above $700 so I took the cheaper road as I think city codes might be against me with one that big. But yes, go see if they have one in stock.

Steve, I am going to have to keep looking at your house pics as an example. Thanks for the heads up. You are going to get a hands on look in March right????? You ARE coming to "Arnold's" w/ me and OP right????

Mac, I sure hope I can make things work in the Winter. Keep my digits crossed.

 
Posted : 19/01/2007 3:31 pm
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Thanks Kansas. I'm going down tomorrow to see if they have the large one in stock.

http://citrus.forumup.org/

 
Posted : 19/01/2007 9:05 pm
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Newbie here,and also from Kansas,south down to Wichita way!!!
Just curious,Kansas,did you get your greenhouse up before the snow storm??
I just wanted to say,I have a lady friend here in town,that has bought one,for about 3 years now,and she heats hers with a oil filled raditator heater,and she says it works just great,no matter how cold,it keeps it a few degrees above freezing.
The more plants you have in the greenhouse the less air you have to heat,so pack them full,I have all mine packed full.I heat with natural gas .
If your interested,I have a small propane heater,3 to 6000 btu heater,brand new,never been out of the box,I paid $100,and will let go for 50 bucks,for when you ever have a electic outage,you could use for a back up heater.
Tropicman
AKA Don

PS,Pics of a few things I grow.
http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l302/dbrya1/?action=share

 
Posted : 23/01/2007 12:20 am
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WELCOME!!!!!
Thanks for the info on the fact that more plants in there, less heat I will nead as I never thought of that.
No, I didn't get it built before the snow 😳
Since your in Wichita, I hear there are a couple homes that have Fortunei planted in ground. I would love to try one as I have a Washy Robusta currently in the ground. But I want to get it in the ground ASAP and don't know if "Nature's Way" in Wichita will get them soon enough for me. Do you know of anybody that has one for sale around Wichita?
Also, there are some BEAUTIFUL, HUGE trunking Yuccas on the side of a church at the off ramp of Kellogg & Washington. As you exit off Kellogg going west, look to your emmediate right at the church. WHAT ARE THOSE???? They are GREAT!!!!!

 
Posted : 23/01/2007 8:01 am
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Thanks,I bought my 2 footer fortuneri,at Derees Nursery on south Broadway last year.for 39 bucks.,so this is it's first year,and doing quite well,it has grown about a foot now,so it's right around 3 ft tall,I have it surrounded by bales of straw,with a sheet of plastic over the top,to keep the crown dry.
I didn't see any there at my last visit,but it will be spring time before they get any back in.
Natures way didn't have anything when I visited they before Xmas,said he didn't know when he'd get a new shipment in,but I'll bet about time for the spring and garden show last weeek of February.
Hillside nursery might have some left over from last summer,but I haven't visited them since early summer,I do know
Treetop nursery had some,had some Queen palms,10 fters or taller for 69 bucks before thanksgiving.
If you really want to see some big yuccas,go to central and Maze rd,go west across the creek,first street to our south on the corner,huge huge yuccas,biggest I've ever seen,it fits his house which is a southwwestern design.he travels to Dallas every april to a farmers market,and buys huge bananas and palms and lots of tropicals for a 1/3 of a price you can get them here.
He told me it's only open for a couple weeks in April,being that he owns a cargo and van dealership,he travels down there and pulls a big trailor and fills it with plants,and he plants them in the ground,and treats them as annuals.
If you want to get more hieght out of your greenhouse,I'd build a base frame form railroad ties,and set your greenhouse on top of them,one of the ladies I garden with has one,and she wishes she had done this to get more height for the bigger plants.

 
Posted : 23/01/2007 6:53 pm
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Great, I will give all those folks a call

 
Posted : 24/01/2007 10:19 am
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Tropicman,
Thanks for the info on those Yuccas, going to be down that way this Spring and will be sure to bring my camera 😆

Your picture link did not work out, - Think you need to use the [img] format with Photobucket to embed them.
Would like to see some of your collection!

Steve

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Posted : 25/01/2007 6:47 pm
tropicman
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Your welcome,
Randy Jackson,is the fellow that owns the Yuccas,he has been noted in the newspaper many times for his summer landscaping.
The link,works for me,it takes you to share my albums.click on my albums.
Try this new one.
http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l302/dbrya1/

Here's another site I have some photos in as well.
http://community.webshots.com/user/dbryan251

 
Posted : 25/01/2007 8:30 pm
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