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lucky1
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Hey Igor, thanks for posting that nice picture!
That would brighten anyone's day... 😀

You can't see ANY photos on PN??? or just on this post?
Barb

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Posted : 14/02/2011 4:01 pm
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You can't see ANY photos on PN??? or just on this post? Barb

Surprisingly started seeing the Eric's pictures this morning. That is cool! Oh, sorry Barb, I were not able seeing Eric's pictures only. Now it's over!

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Posted : 14/02/2011 9:19 pm
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Igor, good that it's fixed now.

Oh, have to tell you of this morning's short feature on the Weather Channel with a couple of pics of Almaty, Kazakhstan's Falconry event last weekend.
Lovely photos in bright sunshine of people with their falcons. Lots of snow!
The tradition apparently goes back 3,000 years.

3,000 years...wow.

The oldest thing in Western Canada is a Midas muffler shop. :hmph:

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Posted : 14/02/2011 9:28 pm
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Igor, good that it's fixed now.

Oh, have to tell you of this morning's short feature on the Weather Channel with a couple of pics of Almaty, Kazakhstan's Falconry event last weekend.
Lovely photos in bright sunshine of people with their falcons. Barb

Barb, actually the Kazakh nomads use a golden eagle as a hunting bird. I'm not the Kazakh but used to hold the eagle on my hand once many-many years ago...

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Posted : 14/02/2011 10:40 pm
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Nice horse!
😆 😆 😆
The bird is amazing, too. 😀

 
Posted : 14/02/2011 11:31 pm
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Erik so sorry to hear about the record cold and snow your palms got. It looks like it got even colder just to the north east of you. You were right in your protection that you did. With your normal winter temps it would have protected those palms no problem. The backup plan here for such an event would be ceramic,space heaters? Our normal winter cold events are usualy not near as cold as what you experienced nor the snow. Usually arctic freeze events of-12c to -15c Dec,Jan,Feb. Mid Okanagan Valley.
I think you will still see some of them pull through. I am of the thinking Hydrogen peroxide "proper dilution"is better as a fungicide than the copper fungicide . Try one of each on different palms of the same palm sp. to see wich works best?

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Posted : 15/02/2011 1:59 am
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Igor, wow, massive bird, intimidating! Thanks for the pic.

Erik, the bright side--and there is one--is that you didn't have 2 months of brutal cold, so there IS hope.

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Posted : 15/02/2011 12:56 pm
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Erik I can't imagine dealing with temperatures that cold and the extreme fluctuations and you just live 1 degree of latitude higher than me. I see that it is 70 degrees in your signature right now. I hope you have some surprises and see some palms leafing out when it warms up.

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Posted : 15/02/2011 3:48 pm
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It has been--and usually is around here--a wild ride.
Look at this meteogram from just now. It shows the lows of -20 F a few days ago and how no we are above 60 F, with lows above freezing (grey line).
All palms are uncovered with mulch pulled off, and all have had the chlorothanil (sp?) AND copper fungicide sprayed so it will run down into the crown. (Well, all except the big Sabal palmetto but I gave up on it weeks ago.)
All I'm doing now is waiting. Any other advice? --Erik

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Posted : 15/02/2011 3:57 pm
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I pulled the mulch away from the base of that big Sabal palmetto. Surprisingly, the petiole bases are still green. 😕
The two Sabal mexicana are also green at the base. So, while not likely, maybe a chance. Recall all had the pipe heating cable around the base and spear.

I have not mentioned the Chammie as I did not want to jinx myself but it looks great. Recall it had C9 lights (an entire string) on a thermocube in addition to the pipe heat tape on the trunk (such as it is) and everything else (hay, fiberglass, plastic). It was my experiment. I may be horribly disappointed in a week, but as of now I love thermocube/C9 lights for foliage protection.

Jesse, the three Chameadorea radicalis in the ground in the heated palm hut look awful. 🙁
I would love to have good news there, and given a miracle I will, but not yet.
The miracle would be re-growth from the ground. Potted Brahea in there look better, which says something. 😯
--Erik

 
Posted : 15/02/2011 11:26 pm
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Erik, that's encouraging!

I'm hoping that pipe heating cable did the job, and also the C-9s with the thermocube since you moved it to a more appropriate spot.

Warm soil will be the chief factor now.
Barb

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Posted : 16/02/2011 12:57 am
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Hope your palms pull through......those are some crazy cold temps for your area. Please update us on what survives.

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Posted : 16/02/2011 9:50 pm
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Thanks, folks.
I will keep reporting. I am trying to see what happened a week ago as a crazy experiment, like red-lining your car's tachometer.
It is very warm now, which will accelerate the process.

Now for the awkward thing.
A while back, I agreed to give a talk to a local garden club about how to grow palms here. I wrote the powerpoint show weeks ago. I am due to give it tomorrow night.
I so want to say, "no, seriously, palms won't grow here!" and leave after a minute. But I won't--I'll do my best, showing heat tape, thermocubes, C9 lights and all. Wish me luck, or just laugh at me. 😆

--Erik

 
Posted : 16/02/2011 10:01 pm
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I agreed to give a talk to a local garden club about how to grow palms here.

Good for you Erik, maybe you should start up a small nursery and supply folks, not having to overwinter potted plants because they're sold.

By the way, did you ever find out the name of the "ailing" palm planted under the low glass ceiling GH at the zoo? (or?)

Hope somebody tapes your presentation; would like to see it.
Good luck!

Barb

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Posted : 16/02/2011 10:57 pm
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Barb,
thanks!
This link gives a talk summary:
http://tulsaperennialclub.com/default.aspx
I didn't write the copy, but if you read between the lines palms seem to be classified as "annuals" which lately seems accurate. 😯

My unheated (but protected) Sabal minor may well make it so I plan to suggest them. If I had to guess, I'd say needle palm pups will also pull through, also without heat.
But I think I will push electric heat for folks who want any palm in the ground. And trunkless species. I know those aren't your favorites, but I appreciate them lately. 😀

 
Posted : 16/02/2011 11:09 pm
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