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(@krisk)
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Well
We have lows well above the high 20's (which is pretty much doom for basjoo p-stems) for as far as the forecast goes. I'll make a new thread when it comes time to wrap everyone up for winter. Don't want to thread-jack Kent. Last year I experimented and protected one clump and left the other to winter's effect. The protected clump bloomed but the non-protected did not; however the non-protected grew almost as tall as the year old plants. This year I'll protect both as I want to relocate them behind my deck.

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Posted : 12/11/2011 1:24 pm
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Great photo.
You and hardyjim have done it!

Barb

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Posted : 12/11/2011 6:02 pm
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I'll say. I've tried for years to get a Musa to flower and never done it.
The student has succeeded the master! 😀
(Inside joke; Kris was an Ecology student of mine many, many years ago. Like, in the last century.)

 
Posted : 12/11/2011 6:40 pm
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Yes, Grasshopper did well...

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Posted : 12/11/2011 7:31 pm
(@oppalm)
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heres a pic of how I overwinter the 5 little trachys and livistonia chinensis on the north side of my house. no heat, its just leaves crammed in the box and a roof over the top to keep winter rain and snow out. Little box is made of 1X2's hammered in ground and then a frame made around the top. Takes about 30 minutes to construct. easy.



Kent in Kansas
where it's cold in winter (always)
and hot in summer (usually)
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Posted : 26/11/2011 1:27 pm
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those are dead for sure

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Posted : 26/11/2011 1:29 pm
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those are dead for sure

not yet. they survived as seedlings last year in the same set-up, see the first pics in this thread. Jim, I live year to year baby, if they don't survive, I just plant more. Thats the kind of guy I am. I am just livin' on the edge.

Kent in Kansas
where it's cold in winter (always)
and hot in summer (usually)
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Posted : 26/11/2011 1:37 pm
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They sure look healthy after a previous winter outdoors.
Gonna separate them before they get 8 feet tall, Kent? 😛

...from another edge liver.
(not liver, like the organ).
Barb

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Posted : 27/11/2011 1:55 am
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those are dead for sure

not yet. they survived as seedlings last year in the same set-up, see the first pics in this thread. Jim, I live year to year baby, if they don't survive, I just plant more. Thats the kind of guy I am. I am just livin' on the edge.

You are cracking me up!-LOL

I'm sure they will do great 😳

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Posted : 27/11/2011 2:42 pm
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I was busy today. proof is pictures of my winter protection for my trachy fortunei. built 2 palm huts just like this.

Build the frame up around it. install an outdoor spot light fixture and a 20/30F thermocube. a very simple construction project. Just pounded the 1X2's into the ground maybe 6" or so and framed up around top.

then installed the R-13 fiberglass insulation by wrapping around the outside of the 1X2's. I keep it about 2" off the ground so it will not get wet.

and finally wrapped it with some stealth camoflauge tarp. I hope you can see the hut, its in the middle of the pic. now we set back have a vodka/soda and watch football.

Kent in Kansas
where it's cold in winter (always)
and hot in summer (usually)
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Posted : 27/11/2011 5:06 pm
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They sure look healthy after a previous winter outdoors.
Gonna separate them before they get 8 feet tall, Kent? 😛

I suppose I will dig them up and transplant in the springtime if they survive winter. I just planted them because I had excess seeds and wanted to see what would happen as small seedlings overwinter with no heat.

...from another edge liver.

Nice liver Barb. I trust you take good care of it.

Kent in Kansas
where it's cold in winter (always)
and hot in summer (usually)
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Posted : 27/11/2011 5:11 pm
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Love the cammo! That is great.

 
Posted : 27/11/2011 7:21 pm
lucky1
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What cammo? Where? :clown:

You must have no rocks otherwise pounding 1x2s six inches into the ground would turn it into chopsticks.
I used a sledgehammer and replacement aluminum broomhandles ($1 at the dollar store).
Hit a rock and BOING, a 40 degree turn thataway 😕

I see an electrical cord...got a heater in there? lights?

Did that Trachy spend last winter outdoors?

Smart to keep the insulation off the ground, Kent.

Barb

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Posted : 27/11/2011 10:24 pm
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Barb,

No rocks in the soil. The 1X2's went in ground quite easy, and they were .79 cents each at HD.

This is the first year for this Trachy in ground. It was planted in ground in April 2011. Birthday gift from my wife and kids in 2010. The electrical cord is for the thermo cube (20F/30F) (-6C/-1C) thats plugged into 60W light bulb (incandescent). I also have put a wireless thermometer in the hut which I can read from the kitchen window receiving unit. It works. we are only about 50 feet away from the palm hut when standing inside the cozy confines of our kitchen. So I can keep an eye on temps and obsess about that every morning and night.

Kent in Kansas
where it's cold in winter (always)
and hot in summer (usually)
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Posted : 28/11/2011 10:30 am
lucky1
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Perfect, I like it, Kent.

Next year I'll try some lighter frames if my Washies/yuccas make it through this winter.
I'll find a way, despite rocky soil.

keep an eye on temps and obsess about that every morning and night.

Obsessive only BEGINS when you RECORD temps twice a day.
And freak when the remote display gives a " -- " 😯

Barb

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Posted : 28/11/2011 3:50 pm
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