what to say after all this excelent explanation, great pics and everything. not even years of research could compare to this exquisitely finding you share with all of us. :notworthy: :thumbright:
p.s. today i planted seeds you've sent. tomorrow i'll take them out and do the "de-lidding" technique. now i know on each specie where to cut. thanks once again!! regards
I was thinking, probably a stupid question but..................
Is de-lidding, just a form of scarification, except there is a spacific spot to scarify? If so, is there a specific spot to scarify canna seeds?
**** if you type in "delidding seeds" in yahoo, barbs post comes up first thing ( about the foxtails i think) LOL
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Thanks Damir! Please try to post some pics when you de-lid your seeds!
Canadianplant, that's it! I don't know why this hasn't really become a popular method sooner, because people have known about seed scarification for many years! When I scarified the canna seeds I just chose one end, it didn't really seem to matter.
For an update on the Hayes Stiffie seeds, around 25 more have germinated since last night when I put them in warm water.
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Without looking it up in the dictionary, I thought scarification meant exposing seeds to a winter environment for even brief period of time that allows the "dormancy" then to be broken as it warms up, i.e. seeds of pine, fir, cedar and such.
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thats STRATification..... to many "ications" in botany I think LOL
Cameron... wow....... Im going to have to try this on some I think. 😈
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You're right Jesse, I was thinking of stratification.
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I took a few hours this evening and de-lidded the Nannorrhops seeds. They're soaking now:
They took longer to sand, because I really had to search for the embryo location on each one 🙄
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Canadianplant, here's the website I went by for the canna:
http://www.cooltropicalplants.com/growing-canna-from-seed.html
I didn't bother using nail clippers, I just used sandpaper until I saw a bit of white.
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Cameron, I've virtually scalped my two remaining Nannorhops ritchiana seeds looking for the embryo "door".
I found a dot, but it hasn't moved in two days...do you have a close-up of one?
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Barb, right now my BB wouldn't be able to get a close up shot. I'll try to explain it:
On one end there is a visible black-ish dot near the bottom. The embryo is on the opposite end. There is usually a small circle or slight bump (not directly at the top, but near it). It's very hard to see, probably like 1 mm wide. I only found it maybe 3/4 of the time. Also, the embryo is usually close to the surface of the seed.
I'll try to take a closer shot in the morning.
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Ah thanks Cameron, since my comp died at christmas, i lost alot of links, that one included.
Sry to bug you about it again, but, some of the seeds arent nice and round, they are wrinkled ( came out of the plant like this). Are these immature seeds?
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here are some pics of de-lidding seeds
and here, few weeks ago, with regular sabal minor. after de-lidding it came out in 2 days in water
here is pic of germinated seed of agave palmeri, i got from desert zone. thanks once again. to desert zone and cameron!!