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(@cameron_z6a_n-s)
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Thanks Tim! Have you started any that I sent you?

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Posted : 12/02/2011 12:09 am
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Chamaerops humilis seed.
Wasn't sure where to sandpaper, but the process was sufficient to allow water to enter.
A little brown "trapdoor" suddenly opens with the "button" emerging. Here they are:

<img src=" " width="375" height="500" alt="DSC04456" />

The following shows "lost cause" Pritchardia hillebrandii seeds.
Damn...these were expensive.
All appear to have a dead embryo, no trace of white interior anywhere = obviously old seeds 👿

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Barb

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Posted : 12/02/2011 1:25 pm
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Neat, I guess I'll have to try the sand paper method. I have some Queen palm seeds I'm dealing with now. 8)

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Posted : 12/02/2011 1:28 pm
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Nice work with the chamaerops, Barb! Did you try cutting one of the Pritchardia seeds in half? Sometimes it's easier to find the embryo that way.

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Posted : 12/02/2011 5:41 pm
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I only had 4 Pritchardia seeds left, and was reluctant to "ruin" any 😆 😆

But shouldn't that "endosperm" be 99% fleshy and white if it's the food supply for root development up to and including first leaves?

OK gonna cut one in half. 😕

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Posted : 12/02/2011 8:48 pm
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Stubborn even after de-lidding, Pritchardia hillebrandii, cut in half because I couldn't find ANY white area inside:

I don't think there should be a gap between the white part and the outside (it didn't rattle yet).

<img src=" " width="500" height="375" alt="DSC04459" />

And since I read on Cameron's link about somebody sawing a coconut in half and then taping it back together AND IT GERMINATED, thought I would too:

<img src=" " width="500" height="375" alt="DSC04461" /> :blackeye:

Would the seed have made it if I: de-lidded a little deeper? waited longer?

Barb

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Posted : 12/02/2011 10:47 pm
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Barb, hopefully that Pritchardia will germinate!

Here's a Jubaea seed that was de-lidded around 3 days ago:


I knew if I wanted to de-lid the rest, I would have a bit of work to do, mainly cracking the outer shells:

I seperated around 200 for trades, etc. After a few hours (and with a sprained finger 😡 ), here was the result:

Now the sanding begins... 🙄

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Posted : 13/02/2011 3:04 am
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Good examples Cameron.

My de-lidding is working on some, but none of the 3 hr or 24 hr responses you and others report.
As always, fresh seed is the trick so mine are obviously older than the hills.

A sprained finger :evil4:
I'm sure you'll come up with a sanding contraption yet...

I bought more sandpaper yesterday; the clerk asked "renovating?"
Feeling he wouldn't understand the real answer, I just said "yes". 😆

Barb

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Posted : 13/02/2011 10:44 am
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Wow, that's a lot of seeds, Cameron. What kind are they?

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Posted : 13/02/2011 11:27 am
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Yeah, when I was buying a bunch of rubbermaid storage trays for the seeds yesterday, someone behind me in line said "you're going to have a very organized house!", and I just agreed 😆

Dean, those are all Jubaea seeds!

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Posted : 13/02/2011 11:57 am
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Been thinking about a "sanding contraption".

Anybody's grandmothers do needlepoint? 😆
Utilizes a wooden frame, shaped like a circle, that can be expanded to any size with the turn of a screw.
Wonder if seeds could be placed tightly (so they don't roll around) into one of those, and then a belt sander run across the top...hmmmm.

If it worked it'd be super quick.
But the time spent to line up all the seeds...maybe not so good. 🙄

Need something like a tiny egg carton.

Barb

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Posted : 13/02/2011 12:05 pm
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I used a pair of pliers to hold the seed then sanded.

Dean

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Posted : 13/02/2011 12:21 pm
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Yup that works, Dean.
I was thinking of Cameron sanding hundreds of seeds... 😉

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Posted : 13/02/2011 12:33 pm
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I'm sure that by the 1000th seed, I'll have found a more efficient way to do it 😛

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Posted : 13/02/2011 12:48 pm
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Here's how I germinated my spores,I like this method. 😀

You can just buy this stuff yourself,it's a little work to sift the peatmoss-

whayagonnado?

http://www.fernfactory.com/frontend/proddetail.aspx?pn=supsgrwkit&co=10000397

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Posted : 13/02/2011 2:05 pm
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