Thats too bad barb. Ive rotted many seeds. GO through the soil looking for seeds, and cant find anything thats hard like seeds.

barb, this few seeds you showed, had too much water in soil. perlite is the best solution for germinating seeds.

But doesn't perlite always stay dry even when pouring water on it? Doesn't all seed need some sort of moisture around it to germinate and thrive?

Sorry about the seeds Barb. I tried Jub's and never got any to germ either. I've never tried perlite in plastic bags. Perhaps someone has some tips. I've always used peat moss in plastic bags. Soak the peat until saturated, then squeeze as hard as you can (with hands) to remove excess water.

Thanks damir, appreciate the advice.
Puzzling because I use the same amount of water in all my germinating pots.
Veitchia, Sabal bermudiana, foxtails, several Phoenix have all come up at good germinating percentages.

I've never liked perlite (by the way Scott...perlite is moistened only by mister spritzing into the baggies, and then sealing).
But my baggie attempts have never been successful so maybe not enough moisture?
Plus, with perlite being white, can't see a white shoot growing.
Causes too much damage when handling too late.

Tim, I hate peat moss!
Bought a bale years ago, didn't tape it shut and the whole thing dried out.
So much that it NEVER re-hydrates, even when I press it down with a small board while it's floating on a water filled bowl. 👿
It's just a 2-foot x 3-foot brick in my basement.

Since I've probably totally @#^&*%$ the Jubaea germination, may just take a hammer to the rest of them for the hell of it. 😈

And God forbid if I see a worm... :tongue4:

Barb

Hi Barb,

I know what you mean about trying to re-hydrate the peat moss. It does take hours! :cussing:

Perhaps the 'worms' are on the seeds when we get them?? Perhaps a soak in a 10:1 chlorine bath is needed for those seeds??........or even better.........mail order seedlings!:D

Tim

I used to soak every seed arrival in diluted bleach...yet didn't with the Jubaeas.
They were mail order 😆 😆

Sheesh, never thought about it before but can you imagine the creepy/crawlies that end up in confiscation bins at borders?
in/from Tropical countries? yuk.

Bet the border nazis go home scratchin' some days.
eeeeuuuuuwww. :laughing3:

Barb sorry to see what happened to the JubX seeds. I still have the ones you gave me germinating in tupper ware with Sunshine # 4 soil mix with H. peroxide spray every three days. I`m hope they don`t look like that after . I got 90% on the Chrismas palm seeds. S. burmudiana 3 so far. I also have 4 Musa Sikkimensis so far started. I`m a proud Papa 😆 .

John

So far John only one Jubaea was total mush.
How do you resist the urge to hammer one on the concrete at this stage?
I'm having a helluva time holding off.

About half were in mix #4 (no sand added thankfully to that group! 😈 ), so I'm still hoping they're OK.
Do you open your tupperware lid for half a day?

Nothing yet from the mystery oil palm that, based on Erik's photos in Belize, we thought might be Attalea cohune.

S. bermudiana just 1 so far.
Christmas palms 8
a whole bunch of Phoenix dactylifera, both Medjool and Deglet Noor. How many do you want :laughing6:

Barb

Barb I take the lid off once a day just to check on the Jubea x and spray them with hydrogen peroxide. The waiting goes on 🙄 I don`t think the Cohune palm seeds were quite ripe when I picked them. I opened up a couple to see. Three S. burmudiana. 10 Christmas palms. P. dactylifera sound real nice. I would trade you something ,but you already have all the ones I do. 8)

John

My cacad seeds are pretty similar to the jubs, with the exception that they hve germinated, but have not done a thing for weeks. They put down the radicle, and started to crack the shell, but other then that, they are sitting there, mocking me. None of them rotted, mind you, but they are definitely taking their time 👿

Canadianplant, when your cycads begin to send up their first fronds, they will emerge very quickly!

John did you take a photo of the ones you opened?
I think two months is too soon (sheesh...ME say that?) 😆

I'll pot up the P.dactys...hopefully they'll be a decent size for your summer visit.
or at least still alive. 😆

No trade necessary.

Jesse, yes Cameron's bang on.
You'll be rewarded very soon.

Worry if there's no radicle...ever. 😆

Barb/Cameron - ITs weird. All the "old" types of plants (ferns, cycads, ginkgo etc), seem to be a bit "laid back" when it comes to growing. The seeds of the older plants take a long time to get going. Part of the reason why scientists think angiosperms took over (aside from conifers and ferns, they seem to have done quite well!). Im finding it hard to keep the moisture level right. IF i keep the lid on, they seem to start to mould slightly, when I take the lid off, they dry out in a day or 2....

Regardless, im glad to see something happening!