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 Knnn
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Erik, Asian scale would make your plant look like it was covered in snow, some photos at this link.

http://www.plantapalm.com/centralfl/asian_cycad_scale.htm

Common brown scale will sometimes show up on Sagos, just check the bottom of the fronds.

Here is Tom's article on using coffee grounds,

http://www.cycad.org/documents/Broome-Coffee-2007.pdf

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Posted : 13/08/2010 10:17 am
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I have the evening unexpectedly free so I thought I'd update some of my old threads.

I potted up the yellowing Sago and cut off most of the fronds. I kept these three as they had some yellow. The root mass was less than it should have been, but the roots that were there seemed healthy enough so I didn't trim them.

I re-potted in Miracle Grow palm/cacti soil (i.e., fast draining). I also gave it Dr. John's root therapy (IBA, etc.). I've kept it watered but it drains well. It gets quite a bit of sun, but afternoon shade from a shade cloth (part of my "summer protection").

It has not flushed, but the little spines (I don't know the name) are still pliable so I have hope.

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Posted : 24/09/2010 9:48 pm
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Just so you know I can grow Cycas revoluta, here is the sibling of the sad Sago.
It made a little flush of just three leaves early in Summer, then nothing. At least it stayed mostly green.
Recently, it has started a nice flush of 10-12 leaves 😀

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Posted : 24/09/2010 9:50 pm
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Erik, To me, it seems the larger Sago's take about a year in ground to properly establish themselves.
It might be worthwhile to find a couple larger containers to leave them in year round, or maybe pot plant them each year so a basic rootball is left intact.
Wes, (Kansas), does that each year. Haven't seen him around lately, but the last I knew it was working out well.

As warm as it is, if you trim & pot it up now, will probably trigger a flush, good luck with them!

Steve

Still here Steve LOL. I just don't have a camera so I just don't visit the site much any more. Anyways.....
Yes, my cycads do VERY well with my "pot planting" deal every year. If I had a camera I would show pics, but my......
2 1/2' Tait looks great
2 1/2' Spinulosum LOOKS FANTABULOUS!!! OMG, you all should see it!!
2 smaller Spinulosums look GREAT.
But this thread is about Revoluta and those did something wierd this year. Usually the flushes are pretty wide. Well this year, the numbers of leaves was about the same (10-12 leaves) but they didn't spread out much or grow very long. I have attributed that to the fact that they are in full Sun and didn't have to look for light.

Now for that Revoluta in the pic earlier in this thread, I hate to say it, but if you pulled it up and the root mass was not big, that tree looks like it is done:-(
I hope I am wrong, but in my past experience, it looks like it got root rot from too much water.

 
Posted : 01/10/2010 10:34 pm
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Wes,
I'll do the pot-planting thing next year with the healthy sago.
As for the sad sago, I agree it had root rot (a big problem for me this year) and probably won't make it, but as with my dying Butia I figured I was going to have to dig it up anyway so why not just do it now vs. later. --Erik

 
Posted : 01/10/2010 10:56 pm
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Erik,
When you pot up the sad sago, cut off ALL the leaves (those yellow leaves are going brown now anyway).
Lots of patience is needed with cycads (sagos in particular).

It'll come back gangbusters next year when you put it in MORNING sun, and fertilize/water.
Don't overwater this winter, and keep it coolish (remember it has no leaves).
The coffee grounds are a great idea.

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Posted : 02/10/2010 1:00 pm
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Erik
Don't give up on it! I've had "pups" bigger than the one you have that lived without any roots for months before starting to grow new ones. Apparently the cycads can survive for quite a long time on food stored in the trunk. I've had many that I thought were ready for the trash heap and suddenly they would start to reroot and flush. I'd hang on to it for a while.

 
Posted : 02/10/2010 3:04 pm
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Penny,
what is your opinion on whether or not to cut off the three fronds I left--the ones with a tiny bit of green left? --Erik

 
Posted : 02/10/2010 3:11 pm
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Erik
At this point it probably doesn't matter one way or the other. One expert I read after said when he is trying to establish a new plant from a pup he cuts off all fronds (even green ones). He will also cut the whole bottom off to establish a new rooting base. I tried this on plants this spring and had good success. I would feel better about your odds if this was spring and not fall. At this point the plant is not going to grow much anyway.

 
Posted : 03/10/2010 7:32 am
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If the 3 leafs are still intact, pull one down and see if the leaf base pulls away very easliy from the trunk. If it does, it's a goner. If it doesn't pull away from the trunk at all, you might be alright.
Also, If you can take the tree by the trunk and easily shake it out of the soil, it means you have no root growth and its a goner.

 
Posted : 06/10/2010 9:50 pm
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Kansas,
I am already in bed but as I read this I ran out into the dark (I'm approx. the same lat. and long. as you) and the still warm air to do your tests.
Pass! All three fronds I did not cut are firm. Trunk is firm in soil.

Just in case, the "happy" sister sago (photo above) is filling out a whooping 15 fronds in its late flush, so I'll have at least one sago left to kill in 2011....
--Erik

 
Posted : 06/10/2010 10:02 pm
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than I think you will be in luck. If you bring it in for the Winter, Keep in the dry side and lot's of sun thru a window. Then Mid March, get some old cow manure and mix it in the soil and water well. By at least mid May, you will see a new flush

 
Posted : 09/10/2010 12:08 am
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The dying sago palm is flushing now!
It spent the winter in the cool (low about 32 F) storage room we call the "ballroom."
It has been outdoors in sun for about a month with generally warm weather (lowest it has seen lately about 27 F). I've watered it with filtered tap water with miracle gro mixed in.
Its twin, which did well last year, is in the background. I think it is getting ready to flush as well.

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Posted : 19/04/2011 10:09 pm
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See Erik,

I got one too only now it looks worse 😀

It won't flush this year now but..........I have one that has flushed three new fronds, and its producing five pups.

How cool is that?

 
Posted : 16/07/2011 1:14 pm
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I left my two Sagos in their pots this year, thinking that they did not like the transplant shock of coming out of their winter pot into garden soil.
No good. Both are yellowing now. The healthier of the two never even flushed once.
Frankly, I'm giving up. I'll stick 'em both in the ground and leave them to the farm buyer (assuming we get one).
I bought two little coontie palms and stuck them in the ground. Both are flushing well and very green and happy. I'll dig them up and baby them in pots.
So, I'm not giving up on cycads--just Cycas. I am now a Zamia fan. 😆

 
Posted : 16/07/2011 1:23 pm
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