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Received this Cycas sp. 'Wilailak' last Summer with shipping damage, ( roots were broken/torn off about 1" - 2" below the caudex ), it just sat all last year, signs of life now 8)
And a Zamia floridana, ( this one did have some nice leaves, it was sitting near the back up heater during a power failure, and...well, it's doing better now 😀
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Posted : 18/02/2008 12:32 am
AHHHH yes! Now you see why this is my favorite Cycad??? TOUGH AS NAILS!!
Posted : 18/02/2008 7:35 am
What's the minumum temp for Zamia floridana?
Dean
Dean
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Posted : 18/02/2008 10:03 am
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Dean, Z.floridana is accepted as 8B, (15F - 20F), The wide leaf "Palatka Giant" form is reported to be even more cold tolerant. Have some I'm trying to establish in ground here, ( a little building with heat over them 😀
Wes, I checked the roots on that one about 1 1/2 months ago, ( just to make sure there was no decay ), it had just about regrown all that was lost!
Found one with "rippled" leaves 8)
( The leaflets on all the fronds so far are showing this, will get a better photo soon)
Steve
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Posted : 18/02/2008 12:22 pm
Good to know hopefully mine has a chance in the ground then. I'm in zone 8b. 8)
Dean
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Posted : 18/02/2008 1:00 pm
So do you just need to keep the roots dry for a while or no?
Also, UMMMMM, I have seen KNNN's Palatka Giant that he states he is "Trying" to establish, Yea, don't let him be so modest. He DOES have them established. He has them looking GREAT for being in a Zone 5.
With his method of protection on those, and mine with my Revoluta, I am hopeing to be able to prove that cycads CAN be grown in zone 5 with a little bit of "want to" and "elbow grease".
Posted : 18/02/2008 2:04 pm
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I'll consider the Zamias established when they start setting seed 😀
Wes, Is your Sago still hanging in there? If yours does ok, I might try one.
Steve
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Posted : 18/02/2008 2:14 pm
LOL!!! When they start setting seeds! 😆
Dean
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Posted : 18/02/2008 4:17 pm
I'll consider the Zamias established when they start setting seed 😀
Wes, Is your Sago still hanging in there? If yours does ok, I might try one.
Steve
Well the leaves are brown down to about 3" from the Caudex. At that point, they are still green so I suspect that it is doing fine. I gave it NO supplemental heat, jus thte sun coming the plexyglass.
Posted : 18/02/2008 4:44 pm
ooooh, those rippled leaves are cool, Steve!
Is the ripple on the floridana leaf? or the Giant?
The leaf form will be interesting to watch.
Barb
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Posted : 18/02/2008 6:17 pm
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Hi Barb,
The leaf belong to Cycas sp. "Wilailak", becoming one of my favorites too 😀
Steve
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Posted : 18/02/2008 7:47 pm
That wilailik leaf has happened on mine too. And also, thats the only cycad I have had that was like that. Weird huh?
Posted : 18/02/2008 9:04 pm
Wonderful if there's going to be a new cycad, whose leaves are all wavy.
Can we hope for that?
Barb
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Posted : 18/02/2008 10:58 pm
No Barb, Wilailak often do this. But it's not permanent. I have hundreds of them (thanks to Jody) and at any one time
there are several Wilailaks doing the wavy leaf thing. Also , the caudex will crack and look deformed and will swell to a larger size
and then not throw as many leaves as you might expect for that size caudex. (and grow generally slow). I think this is indicative
of Thailand cycads in general though.
I live on 12 acres in Central Florida about half way between Tampa and Walt Disney World.I have seed colonies of over 60 varieties of cycads. I have over one half acre of variegated cycads and I make many hybrids as well.
Posted : 23/02/2008 12:41 am
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Bob,
Thank you for the info, I guess I will enjoy it while it last 😀
There has been some talk lately that the smaller leaf Z.floridanas might be more cold tolerant than the wider leaf versions?
Have you noted any differences ?
Steve
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Posted : 23/02/2008 9:59 am
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