Chances are that you're a stones throw away from Southcoast gardens near Turkey Point. Kevin does have some larger specimens, mostly Trachycarpus fortunei, if I recall correctly. Rice Road greenhouses and Cole's Nursery in the St. Catherines area also carry hardy palms, mostly in smaller sizes but they also do get in the larger sized specimens as well.

There is also a fellow, Mike, in Montreal who landscapes and sells hardy palms. Can't recall the website or company name offhand, maybe Montreal Palms.

I'm not 100% sure what it is you're looking for, if it's something like hurricane cut Sabal palmettos, there is no place in Canada that sells them and you are best off looking at those sites with their bulk shipping rates. Are you looking for expensive annual palms? Are you going to try to overwinter them?

Hi

I'm near windsor , ontario . Would love if there is someone in essex county that sold hardy palms . The main palms that I'm looking for are trachycarpus wagnerianus , needle palm and the sabal minor . They all should survive the winter in my area no problem . I have seen the montreal website but I'm not sure if he would ship the palms and if he actually carries them in stock , I see that he has posted here , maybe he can respond . I have also seen the south coast gardens website , they would be a couple of hours drive for me but I don't see any waggies listed on his site . He does have needles and minors though . Thanks .

Welcome to PN, snowmanone!
Glad to have another Canadian aboard (with the same Q all of us have had).

In addition to winter hardy palms, if you're also looking for some more rare (in Canada) tropical stuff, Cameron from Nova Scotia has offered to put together a group order from Plant Delights Nursery in the Carolinas here at this link:
http://www.palmsnorth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3446

The Plant Delights catalogue is here:
http://www.plantdelights.com/Shop-Perennials-A-to-Z/products/2/

Deadline for paying Cameron is March 31st; additional Cdn shipping will be added later.

Do you have any tropical palms indoors?

Again, welcome!
Barb

Hi Barb

I have seen the post on getting an order together from plants delight . They only have small stuff though . I'm a little impatient waiting all those years getting them to a good size 🙂 .
On another thought , has anyone bought palms stateside and tried to bring them across the border ? Since I live south of detroit , it would also be a possibility if anyone knows any detroit area nurseries that sell palms with a pysto certificate .

BTW - yes I really do live south of detroit and I'm in canada ( it even was a jeopardy question awhile back )

I'll ask macario (an infrequent poster here) if he can recommend some nurseries as he's in the area (I think).

Barb

Mike in Montreal does ship. He shipped some to Jordan in Newfoundland... Paul, he actually can get HC palmettos. he tried to see me one last year. He'll pretty much get you anyone you want. Paul is right about Coles too! Tony is great to deal with and also has a good selection of other hardy tropicals.

you got the summers for it. Mikes website is montrealplants.com . Wide selection of palms for Canadian nursery...probably the most in eastern Canada.

Hi
The main palms that I'm looking for are trachycarpus wagnerianus , needle palm and the sabal minor . They all should survive the winter in my area no problem

You may want to do some more research on this topic. These palms will all need protection for the first few years in your climate, and likely afterward if you want pristine looking palms. Needle palm is hardy to zone 6, BUT, it is hardier in southern zone 6's. In the north it is a true zone 7 plant which looks ratty and/or can be killed by zone 6 temps. It also has a tendency to have spear pull. Sabal minor foliage is less hardy but they are resilient palms. They can be killed to ground and, as long as they are killed to the ground again, can recover in a fairly short period of time (I'm guessing 2-3 years for a full recovery in Amherstberg).

The only unprotected palms that I know of in Ontario are needle palms in Niagara. I personally can vouch for 3 or 4 needle palms that are established and doing OK in good microclimates. Jim (Niagara) also has a few select Trachycarpus seedlings planted out that seem to survive there without extra heat. Keep in mind though, that he is in a zone 7a climate, with micro climates that may be 7b.

T. fortunei var. wagnerianus is notoriously inconsistent in terms of hardiness. Some of them can take temps around 0f (-17C) without too much leaf damage (when established) while others can be killed by temperatures in the 15f (-9C) range. The same story is true of T. fortunei, as I'm sure Jim can tell you. It's not necessarily the low temps, it can be a combination of factors.

In short, yes you can probably get away with many of these palms. You need to realize that they are not fool proof, nor will they be bulletproof. If you have strong wind the palms can have the moisture sucked out of them in frozen soil. Extreme lows can and do happen, this can be the death of a palm. Warnings aside, go for it. But, if you're going to spend the money be smart about what you plant and how you treat it.

Hi Paul

I have been doing the research and know that I'll have to protect them but if they can grow them in the niagra region , I should have no problem . Then again there are no guarantees 🙂 . How did you know the town I'm in ? I didn't post it . Just curious .

Still waiting to hear from Mike (macario) about a mailorder nursery from US to

as far south in Canada as you possibly can

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He first sent an Oregon site 😆 😆
Barb

Thanks for looking into it for me barb !

BTW - my thought on a waggie over a fotunei was that we have some very strong storms in the spring/summer . I figure the waggie would be better in the high winds . So it was more a warm weather deal than a winter one . I think that makes sense 🙂

I always quote near windsor online as most people wouldn't know where amherstburg was and my ip usually shows windsor .

Ha! It's the only town that I know that is south of Windsor! I assumed that if it was Leamington, you would have said so. Nice little place, I recall that, like Niagara, there were a few Albizia planted in private gardens along the streets. I don't remember seeing any southern magnolias planted, but they would certainly be (selected varieties) hardy... Although, I was only there for 2 days and that was 3 years ago now!

You're right about the climate. It is similar in terms of averages to Niagara, a little worse in extremes (or better in the case of summer) AND you have the benefit of a quicker warm up in spring which might be good for marginal palms and other plants...
For those unfamiliar with this area of Ontario:

Windsor:
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/statistics/CL6139525/caon0759
St. Catherine's:
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/statistics/CL6135657/caon0476

Lovely spot, good luck!

Oh when did they change the statistics format ont he weather network website??

snowmanone, Mike emailed this::

there are local greenhouses that sell palms but no Nurseries. Those area all at least 500 miles more south of chicago

Maybe Scotty will pipe in here...or try that Montreal Palms guy.
Let us know what you find.

Barb