still dont know what they are birmingham or what anybody have any ibea

They sure look like birminghams to me.........20+ year old birminghams at that. The wrapped one looks like a butia to me.

thanx for the info ,cant ever catch the person that owns them at home

thanx for the info ,cant ever catch the person that owns them at home

Just keep tabs on them. When they set seeds grab all you can get and send them out to everyone here.....LOL.

They might not look like it, but those are some pretty special palms.

Craig

They look like regular old Palmettos, probably bought somewhere south and trucked in. The wrapped palm is indeed a Butia.

Hey Laaz!! Hope all is well!!

You have more hands on experience than me with sabals, but those palms look like they have been there a while and have all the traits of a birmingham. I am curious why you think they are regular sabals. The palms being located in NE Oklahoma makes me think they are not regular sabals. NE Tulsa, Oklahoma area is a 6a/b climate, unless recently planted, I don't think regular sabals would be long term survivors in Tulsa. There are some well known mature sabal birminghams in the area so it's very possible they are offspring of local birminghams.

Craig

the palms are at least 15 yrs old ive driven by them for years .there are also sevral others in the area with them their yards back up to the road and in the summer you cant help but notice them. im going to keep trying to contact the people maybe theyll give me a few seeds

Some look even older than 15 years.

Remember to take your camera with you when spring arrives.
They'd probably be happy if you'd take the seeds before they drop 😀
Barb

Hey Craig. It is possible they are birminghams, but birminghams are supposed to be very slow growers so I doubt they would be anywhere near that size from seed in 15 years. In a climate like that they would be even slower. Palmettos are a slow as well & I don't see how these will replace their crowns in a climate like that. Down here Palmettos are sold hurricane cut & it takes 3-5 years to regrow their crowns so they look halfway decent. If you look at this photo, this frond looks like the result of a old hurricane cut...

Now look at the palmettos for sale with hurricane cuts...

these could be much older but ive only really noticed them for about 15 years that was when one was planted right on the rqad in plain veiw . at the time it was planted it was about 6ft tall not a birmingham though i believe it was like the other it was wrapped each winter . also the winters here are not that cold it only reaches the teens a few times a year and rarely stays below freezing for more than a couple of days.the low last nite was 60 and its been in the 70 s for the last 3 days

Zone 8b growing the following unprotected..btw had some -7 here...

Trach Fortuneii and Wagnerianus
Butia Capitata, Odorata and Eriospatha
Pheonix Canariensis
Rhapidopphylum Hystrix
Trithrinax Campestris, Acathocoma
Wash Robusta
Chamaerops Humilis and Cerifera
Chamaedorea Radicalis
Jubaea Chilensis
Brahea Armata

All are fine at the moment. For the butias Erio is the best for cold IMO and is even putting out growth in the winter.

thanks mo do the butias grow vety well in high heat 90 to 100

thanks mo do the butias grow vety well in high heat 90 to 100

Yes they grow very well. Eriospatha is found at Higher elevations in Brazil and Uraguay and is used wo cooler wetter summers but does well in sun too. It is greener than Capitata. For looks I think Odorata is better. The leaves are a nice glauca blue esp in summer and they curve down more making it look elegant. They do not grow as big as the other butias..I like their shape. This is hardier than capitata which seems strange to me as the trunks are generally thinner

you can all see palms from copenhagen denmark (it´s in Scandinavia) here : http://billeder.palmesiden.dk .All pictures are from danish gardens. Hope you all will enjoy. You are welcome to ask questions on my email. mail@palmesiden.dk
/Martin