& 48 days with highs 32F or less?
These first 3 palms had no protection,these have been
in since 2008-so,no cover,no added mulch-no heat.
1.Sabal Lou in the most exposed part of the yard....
slowly recovering.
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2.another Lou,no cover no heat.
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3.S.Lou...once again,totally incovered/unmulched....
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4.S.McCurtain....3rd year in a row covered but no heat.
Toughest of the bunch in my experience.
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5.another S.Lou,it had a big cover but only one C-9
X-mas light next to the growth point...
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6.S.Brazoria hidden away in the shade....
smaller cover but only one C-9 light.
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You can see it really helps to have the growth point underground.
The 2 Needle palms with the same treatment are completely dead.
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One site on Dave's Garden rates Sabal Minor McCurtain as hardy to zone 5b:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/133718/
don't know if they are reliably hardy in zone 5b but with the results you've had, it seems possible. I'm really interested in getting a S. Lou now. The size of the fronds is much more impressive than with the McCurtain (though just having a palm in zone 5 is impressive to me). I'm wondering if maybe close to the foundation in a zone 5b, if a McCurtain would be reliable as a die back perennial.
Jeff
probably would be,in spite of losing its leaves
for the last 3 winters, this is the biggest it has grown.
I would say z6 for sure,well sited.
If I start over at a new place I think
I would leave out Sabal and Needle palms.
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Pretty impressive Jim! How may GDD do you have there? I can't get anything close to that level of recovery up here!
I think we are around 3000 GDD
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My sabals have been extremely hardy for me too Jim. I love those Louisianas and brazorias. I have purchased 6 more sabal Lou this year and another Brazoria.
Glad you never asked me as I'd have said, "none."
Also glad Sabal proved me wrong!
Chad
I did the same thing,I think I had 2 Brazoria(still do,one in a pot)
and I bought 6 or 7 of the Lou 😀
Eric
Their cold hardiness is because the growth point is
still protected underground but regardless...that ground was hard!
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source of the sabal lou? would like to get a few myself. the sabal braz i got from you had massive burns from last winter jim..cover with no heat but has put out lots of new growth and done extremely well this year. only palm i had survive last winter.
All of my Sabal Lou came from Steve (e-bay store
NorthofFlorida palms)...He was the third man into
an argument/discussion on another forum and would not
mind his own business = now he wont sell me palms anymore!-lol
Kind of a paranoid asshole but he does grow some sweet palms... 🙄
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I bought my Sabal "Lou" from a vendor in Oklahoma City:
http://www.alligatoralley.com/palminfo.html
Great guy, good to do business with.
My Sabal "Lou" survived (with protection) our "colder than the south pole" event in 2011.
I passed it on to another Palmsnorth member, KrisK. It is doing better for him than me.
So, check with this vendor. He isn't on this forum.
I bought my Sabal "Lou" from a vendor in Oklahoma City:
http://www.alligatoralley.com/palminfo.htmlGreat guy, good to do business with.
My Sabal "Lou" survived (with protection) our "colder than the south pole" event in 2011.
I passed it on to another Palmsnorth member, KrisK. It is doing better for him than me.So, check with this vendor. He isn't on this forum.
I got my S. Minor McCurtain from them. I was happy with the quality. This will be it's first winter outdoors, so we'll see how hardy it is.
Jeff
I bought my Sabal "Lou" from a vendor in Oklahoma City:
http://www.alligatoralley.com/palminfo.htmlGreat guy, good to do business with.
My Sabal "Lou" survived (with protection) our "colder than the south pole" event in 2011.
I passed it on to another Palmsnorth member, KrisK. It is doing better for him than me.So, check with this vendor. He isn't on this forum.
I got my S. Minor McCurtain from them. I was happy with the quality. This will be it's first winter outdoors, so we'll see how hardy it is.
I hope you have the same experience I
did,mine has been covered but not heated
for 3 winters and is still with us-amazing palm!
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I bought my Sabal "Lou" from a vendor in Oklahoma City:
http://www.alligatoralley.com/palminfo.htmlGreat guy, good to do business with.
My Sabal "Lou" survived (with protection) our "colder than the south pole" event in 2011.
I passed it on to another Palmsnorth member, KrisK. It is doing better for him than me.So, check with this vendor. He isn't on this forum.
I got my S. Minor McCurtain from them. I was happy with the quality. This will be it's first winter outdoors, so we'll see how hardy it is.
I hope you have the same experience I
did,mine has been covered but not heated
for 3 winters and is still with us-amazing palm!
So it survived the 2013/2014 winter with nothing but a cover for protection! 😯
that's 13 consecutive days below freezing. Did the fronds burn that year?
Jeff
From the 4th to the 10th of Jan/2015
was a nice warm stretch...the lows...
3,0,-5,-9,-13F,-2,0....it hit -13 again
the next week but it all started in November
with 10 days below freezing in a row,I have
never seen it that cold for that long in November.
All the leaves on all the Sabal were toasted.
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