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(@hardyjim)
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I removed the Tesan because it wasn't moving,I am willing to wait on the other Fortxwag.

The good news is that 3 of 5 have come back including the Trachy that saw -2f (pulled late)this past winter.

I would say generally speaking that any healthy palm that NEEDS this procedure(it is a last resort)should recover rather quickly,if it's going to.
This is important this far north as a speedy recovery is key for replacing lost foliage before winter.

This is why I opted to remove the Tesan(not moving)and I got a nice little C.cerifera to put in it's place-
Space is at a premium and time is of thee essence!

Blah,blah,blah- the pictures

After initial cut a few weeks ago.)-:

T.fortunei

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T.FortxWag

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LITTLE LESS THAN A WEEK LATER-

T.fortunei

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T.FortxWag

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CURRENT(AS OF A FEW DAYS AGO)including other Trachy that was trunk cut-

T.fortunei-

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FortxWag-

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"OTHER" T.FORT-

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HERE ARE 2 OTHER T.FORTS THAT SPEAR-PULLED IN LATE JAN-
NEITHER WERE HEATED AND SAW AT LEAST -12,THESE WERE COVERED WITH STYROFOAM CONTAINERS.
I CUT THEM DOWN TO THE GROUND AROUND MARCH 20,THEY HAVE BOTH REGROWN THEIR SPEARS,ETC-INCREDIBLE!

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Thanks for looking-

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Posted : 30/04/2010 5:18 pm
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Jim
those T.Forts that saw -12 w no heat, cut to the ground. Both regrowing is wonderful.
Congrats.
You deserve it!
Barb

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Posted : 30/04/2010 6:02 pm
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LET THERE BE LIFE!!!!!!

That's really great man. How many fronds do you think by Oct?

Keep up the good work,
Bill

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Posted : 01/05/2010 10:25 am
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5?

or 0,

really hard to say but it sure would be nice(for starters)to see even 1 open for business. 😛

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Posted : 01/05/2010 11:07 am
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They're alive! Congrats.

 
Posted : 01/05/2010 6:00 pm
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Thanks for sharing. You give us all hope. --Erik

 
Posted : 01/05/2010 7:39 pm
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Nice to see Jim! I have a large B.capitata that is going to have a chainsaw cut soon. I hope I have the same results as you.

John

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Posted : 01/05/2010 7:58 pm
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Good luck John-hope it works for you!

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Posted : 01/05/2010 10:07 pm
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To tell true, I'm very impressed that there was no heating.
Last winter was extremal situation, don't believe it will repeat again; if so, the damages could be more severe.
Anyway palms aren't "dye-back perennials"... 🙁
Many thanks for sharing, Jim!
A lot of sun ang fine growth!
Antti

 
Posted : 02/05/2010 9:57 am
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Antti

The only palms that were not heated are the last 2 very small ones,as an experiment,
I did not expect then to survive and was not planning on leaving them there
as this is my tree fern area!- but they have earned their spot!

We'll see if they make it through next winter 😈

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Posted : 02/05/2010 4:26 pm
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Jim that is so cool, congrats on the regrowth! I didn't even know that could be done! I learn more everyday.

Heidi

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Posted : 02/05/2010 6:10 pm
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Thanks Heidi 😀

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Posted : 02/05/2010 8:33 pm
 Jova
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Jim, one of my trachy's had completely defoliated and finally spear pulled today. I had to cut it down to the ground before I hit what looks like live material, and it now looks about the same as yours did when you cut it. It was only planted last year, and only had about 5 inches of trunk, now about 1 inch:) Hopefully it will pull through as yours did.

 
Posted : 12/05/2010 1:38 am
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I've done that with banannas but never with a palm! Don;t know until you try! Congrats!

 
Posted : 12/05/2010 6:38 am
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Jim and others interested- I thought I'd post this in the thread on the subject. I'll try to condense this as it could easily become a book... I did remove the damaged trachy as can be seen in my recent pictures (it is not there). I did learn several things in the process. I contemplated cutting it like Jim did with his damages trees. I should have listened to my gut and just did it back then rather than waiting several weeks. I missed my likely (second) chance to save the tree... I finally did go to cut it. 6" down, rot and loose center bud. Cut down another 6" and it improved slightly but still stunk and was loose. Another 6" down and I'm nearing the end of the heart/bud and it is still somewhat rotten and loose (yellow though). I kind of felt around and it appeared loose still and ended up coming out in my hand. There were only a few inches left of the central (heart as I call it). It was mush at the bottom. This thing's heart rotted out. The rot was spreading down the heart (or up maybe?) during the weeks I was waiting to see if it moved a spear. I cut another 6" down just to see what was there. Then there was less than a foot of trunk left. At this point it was just wood, no heart. No chance of survival at all. Not to mention that the center 6" diameter of "wood" was kind of soft and mostly black. I'm wondering if the rot came from below and traveled up, or it travelled down from the crown. Either way it was a goner. Valuable lesons learned though! It was inconclusive as to if the roots were rotten. I was a bit depressed when i dug it up so I didn't study it too close.

Remember though, this tree was not cold-damaged. Rather the opposite. It was a protection scheme/experiment gone wrong. Forced into drought mode when it dried out mid winter. Feeder roots were too warm and dried out because of the ground heat mistake I made. Also this over-heat in the ground made it try to force up several new spears during the first part of the winter (until it ran out of moisture that is) ground was bone-dry 6+" down and way too warm at the end of winter.

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Posted : 12/05/2010 8:55 am
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