Erik,

My leaves are showing increasing evidence of damage

Does the damage look the same as mine?
The apparent overnight shredding of leaves puzzles me, as they're 100% protected from wind.
You know how neurotic I am about wind on palms in the winter! 😆 😆

It wasn't even cold last night -1C 30F.

I didn't tug on the spear...afraid to 😐

Everybody here had warned me that damage doesn't show up immediately, takes several weeks.
You were correct, folks!
Damn it.
Barb

Barb,
I understand your fear. Regardless, I've been giving gentle tugs each day (there is no such thing as over-tugging, is there?) and so far, so good.
However, last year my Washies didn't finally succumb until March. I kept seeing green petioles and feeling firm spears and so was confident that the copper spray would make the difference.
--Erik

Don't pull the spear to hard,if it is rotten it will pull right out.
A better plan is to mark the spear and several petioles next to it with
permanent marker and watch for any movement,most likely it will not be growing if it is damaged.
It does need to be checked and treated if need be.

Here is the link-it is not on the site as it doesn't exist anymore-
I lifted it from the Hardy Palm forum and posted it on EPS
and now it is lifted to here 😯 😀

Hope this helps

http://www.palmsociety.org.uk/forum/topic.asp?boardid=1&show=31&page=3&topicid=2435

Erik and Jim,

I may just put the bucket back on top and forget about it for a month.

Jim, I searched for half an hour and came up with nothing, so thanks for all that lifting and posting...
Appreciate it!

...then I had to register on EPS just to read your link.
😐
Barb

Barb
You shouldn't have to join to see the link-
but try looking at the link I posted again,now that you have joined.

Jim,
I did have to join EPS to read your link but that was no problem. The information was great.
My Trachy looks much worse than any of the photos. 🙁
My Butia and Ch. humilis look better, however. 🙂
--Erik

Jim, I did read the stuff you posted at that link when I registered.
Found it most interesting.
Does that John fellow from Colorado ever join in on that site since his site is shut down?
It'd be a shame to lose all that experience if he's not around any more.

Thanks for posting it.
Appreciate the trouble!

Barb

Barb he has posted here a few times but mostly I see him on the Hardy Palm and Subtropical Board.
Glad you guys got to see that,it really is great info,a must have for any site!

http://members3.boardhost.com/HardyPalm/

Wonder if Jay would consider doing a Sticky on pictures of palm damage (once the diagnosis is correct).
Probably more pictures of damage than there are forum pages!

Barb

I was thinking it would be cool to have 3 palms featured every month(stickies) with growing/protection etc,tips supplied by forum users etc.
Titles could have a * next to them(ex;Trachycarpus princeps*) and after a month be archived for future reference.
Rather than people having to sift through all the posts,which could also be done and the finer points added.
Since there are about 5 of us actively posting these days it might be thin on data 😆
Maybe some onlookers could join and add on.
Otherwise we all need to add about 25 palms a piece to what were already growing to get enough data 😈

I like the idea.
But only stuff forum posters actually have, using our own pics (not a wish list) 😀

Short and sweet, just bullet form, i.e.

Latin name/common name:

Germination tips:

Pic young: Pic mature: (as mature-ish as our palms may be)

Damage pictures:

Full/partial sun/shade

Soil Mix/preferred pH: (this is where I actually get my long-held wish to know whether a palm likes acid or alkaline soil)!!!!!!

Lowest temp survived (by area/zone)

etc.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.exotickazahrada.cz%2F_ftp%2Ffajnzivot_10.pdf&sl=cs&tl=en

Yep

OK, I'll pull rank here.

You ask Jay.

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
Barb

I will make 3000 posts tonight and hand it back to you-gotta go think up some ......

There isn't a smiley for my reply to that!