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This is a picture of one of my T Fortuneis that has overwintered in ground in my yard in Kansas , zone 6. This one has been in ground for 2 winters, no heat, just mulch and a plastic cover. It has seen 0F (-17C) at least 4 or 5 times.
I also have 2 other T Fortuneis, 2 sabal minors and a sabal palmetto that overwintered in ground last year (just 1 year in ground) . I will be working on a pictoral to show my protection method. All were planted in ground as 1 or 2 year old seedlings so they were not very big and I did not really expect 100% survival, but so far so good. Enjoy the pic.
Kent in Kansas
where it's cold in winter (always)
and hot in summer (usually)
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Posted : 06/08/2008 12:12 pm
Nice to see smaller Trachy`s make it through zone 6 winters.
John
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Posted : 06/08/2008 10:40 pm
Nice job Kent.
And they'll only become more hardy as they mature.
Barb
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Posted : 07/08/2008 1:05 pm
Looks good, Kent. Great to see them surviving in zone 6. You provided mulch other than the rocks? What kind?
Dean
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Posted : 08/08/2008 12:18 am
Kent,
Good work!, that is encouraging! 8)
Did you start those from seed?
Steve
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Posted : 08/08/2008 9:17 am
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Dean - I use a mulch of grass and leaves (and a plastic cover) and will be posting a pictoral of my method here on this website in just a few short weeks.
Steve - yes the ones planted in ground I grew from seed. I had a bunch germinate so I felt like what the "hey" I'll plant several in ground and see if they live. I have more that I overwinter inside, just in case I lost one of these planted in ground. They all survived, and we had a nasty winter in Jan Feb March 2008.
Kent in Kansas
where it's cold in winter (always)
and hot in summer (usually)
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Posted : 08/08/2008 11:17 am
Very nice picture, oppalm - I'm enjoyed your palm very much!
My first winter is coming, but this summer was extremly cold.
How long frost period was in your locality?
With respect Antti
Posted : 18/08/2008 1:36 pm
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welcome antti. great to see that you joined the forum. Our average first frost date is Oct 20 , last frost date in the spring is around April 15. Our temperature ranges are about 0F to 105F (-17C to 41C) from summer to winter. Our really cold weather usually comes in January and February each year. We will usually have about 2 weeks of really cold weather sometime in mid to late January where I really worry about my outside palms. We don't get alot of snow for insulation so I build little huts over my outdoor palms. I will post pictures on this thread in the coming weeks. Any snow that we do get is usually gone within a few days as our winter temps can fluctuate quite a bit from 25F (-3C) to 50F(10C). Hope that answered your question.0
Kent in Kansas
where it's cold in winter (always)
and hot in summer (usually)
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Posted : 19/08/2008 8:43 am
Welcome anttisepp,
Yippee...another poster from overseas! 😀
Barb
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Posted : 19/08/2008 11:33 am
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antti - if you check back on this thread why don't you start a new thread and post pictures or do a narrative on what palms you are growing and a summary of your climate.
Kent in Kansas
where it's cold in winter (always)
and hot in summer (usually)
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Posted : 21/08/2008 9:35 am
Thanks, Kent and Barb,
I am only beginner and hope that next spring pictures will be more interesting for us. 😉
Nevertheless here's my "biggest Trachy": 😀 
Antti
Posted : 21/08/2008 1:12 pm
anttisepp, looking good.
It has more similarities to my Trachy Nainital than my Fortunei.
Interesting.
Barb
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Posted : 21/08/2008 9:10 pm
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looking good to me. Thats a great start. What are you going to do this winter to protect it? Whats your typical low temp for winter time?
Kent in Kansas
where it's cold in winter (always)
and hot in summer (usually)
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Posted : 22/08/2008 9:27 am
Kent, as you I began to experiment with very small young palms.
Here's year weather in my city:
http://weather.msn.com/monthly_averages.aspx?wealocations=wc:8633458
I'll use mulching, polycarbonate screens and styrofoam shields in winter, and maybe heat cable. And, of cause, snow.
I'll take some pictures in September and will post winter and spring pictures.
Barb, I've got my Trachycarpus fortunei from "Europalms", Belgium. It seems to me this one isn't pure Fortunei, there's something from "Wagnerianus" (very rough leaves), and mabe something else...(Nanital/takil?), - you're right.
Posted : 22/08/2008 10:16 am
Oppalm,looking forward to your stratiegerie 😉
Antti,good to see you over here! 😀
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Posted : 17/10/2008 7:28 pm
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