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lucky1
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no sun and no worse for it

Yup, more proof that Trachies don't need sun/light in winter.
Agree!

It'll be good to see pics of your new plantings.

Barb

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Posted : 21/03/2011 11:19 am
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Jack,
very glad about the Trachies. My unheated ones look terrible but I think there is a tiny smidgen of spear movement on one--time to let them grow!
I planted a dwarf pomegranate in 2009 which was killed to the mulch line now for the second winter. Yuck. I planted another in 2010 and also killed to mulch line. They are supposed to be hardy here but I suggest a good mulch at least.
I planted two Celeste figs in 2010 and they too were killed to below the mulch line but at least they are started to come back with our warm weather lately. My Camellia japonica was killed last year. I meant to try again but did not get around to it and after this winter am glad. My insane zone pushing for BLE is going to be an Osmanthus. Wish it luck 😮
--Erik

 
Posted : 21/03/2011 11:30 am
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Jack,
very glad about the Trachies. My unheated ones look terrible but I think there is a tiny smidgen of spear movement on one--time to let them grow!
I planted a dwarf pomegranate in 2009 which was killed to the mulch line now for the second winter. Yuck. I planted another in 2010 and also killed to mulch line. They are supposed to be hardy here but I suggest a good mulch at least.
I planted two Celeste figs in 2010 and they too were killed to below the mulch line but at least they are started to come back with our warm weather lately. My Camellia japonica was killed last year. I meant to try again but did not get around to it and after this winter am glad. My insane zone pushing for BLE is going to be an Osmanthus. Wish it luck 😮
--Erik

Did you try one of the Ackerman hybrid Camellias? They are very cold hardy. I planted my first last November and it sailed right on through the winter.

Which Pom did you try?

 
Posted : 21/03/2011 12:34 pm
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Yes, it was an Ackerman. It was nibbled on my goats so it went into winter in rough shape. Also, when I dig up the remnants I saw that is had almost no roots--just the original little ball that came out of the pot.

The poms are dwarf pomegranate. The local Zoo has them and they do great there.

 
Posted : 21/03/2011 12:47 pm
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Yes, it was an Ackerman. It was nibbled on my goats so it went into winter in rough shape. Also, when I dig up the remnants I saw that is had almost no roots--just the original little ball that came out of the pot.

The poms are dwarf pomegranate. The local Zoo has them and they do great there.

I spray my boys with anti deer stuff as they are the local menace. No goats.

 
Posted : 22/03/2011 4:38 pm
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Deer? I have to swap my goat meat for venison. Most of my neighbors are gun nuts so I never see any.
I might try the spray-on deer repellent as a back-up to the electric fence for goats, but I am also tempted to try "craigslist" once they knock down my Spring weeds in the pasture. 😈

 
Posted : 22/03/2011 8:40 pm
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Why dont you put a low border of edible plants around that bed., that they can eat instead of the camellia? Im not sure if the goats are stubborn enough to just walk over them, but ive read quite a few articles, and a few books that have mentioned its effectivness for deer. Lots of animals dont go near daffoldils either ( usualy moles, rabbits mice etc, not sure if it will work for goats, concidering they eat everything)

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Posted : 23/03/2011 7:21 am
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Uncovered all the rest of the palms today except the Butia, which resides in a temp greenhouse. Good grief, how did I stuff that many leaves in the cages last Fall? Now I had to bag them all over again to dispose. This hobby is killing me... 😐

Anyway, all Trachys look pretty good. The meds look a bit shell shocked but fine otherwise. Needles and Sabal Minors have some leaf burn, but will pull through. The Butia spent the winter in virtual luxury.

I have 4 new arrivals from Chilly Palms and one is already in the ground. Its an illness..... 😳

 
Posted : 03/04/2011 5:51 pm
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had to bag them all over again to dispose

Shop vac (until it blows up).
Works great for small leaves.

Good to hear your stuff did well.
Why the shell shock on the med fan palms? 😕

What species did you buy from Chilly?

Find some 6 year old to take some pics and post them 😆

Barb

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Posted : 03/04/2011 5:55 pm
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had to bag them all over again to dispose

Shop vac (until it blows up).
Works great for small leaves.

Good to hear your stuff did well.
Why the shell shock on the med fan palms? 😕

What species did you buy from Chilly?

Find some 6 year old to take some pics and post them 😆

Barb

Not sure about the two Meds I protected. One was a bit shaky beforehand as it was a mail order purchase and being shipped bare-rooted is asking for it. They will do fine. A third Med has been unprotected and has taken a shellacking. I think its unprotected winters are at an end. Meds cannot flourish without protection here.

I grabbed two Saw Palmettos and three Citrumelos from Chilly Palm. As he had extras in the truck, I also grabbed two small Sabal Minors. Hey, if you can get pizza delivered, why not Palms?

 
Posted : 03/04/2011 6:38 pm
lucky1
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I'm still surprised that zone 7A produces so much damage on your Meds.
Heard they do really well in Vancouver, same zone.
Maybe a more protected location against south or southeast of house?

Good that you got saw palmettos and sabal minors! 😀
Barb

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Posted : 04/04/2011 6:50 pm
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I'm with Jack on the Meds. I think of them as Zone 8. In normal winters, with protection but no heat, mine was nearly defoliated. Very glad I used heat this winter and last--they were unusually cold. I'm sure it would have died if merely covered.
--Erik

 
Posted : 04/04/2011 10:24 pm
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They need protection here, no doubt. I also wonder if our wet weather is not detrimental. They come from Southern Europe and North Africa, two regions that are very dry.

 
Posted : 05/04/2011 9:40 am
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C.cerifera has proved the most dependable.

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Posted : 05/04/2011 11:14 am
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Love stealing bags of leaves form the neighbors...thank god I'm not the only freak...LOL 😮

If you think about it... Your not stealing. Since they were going to throw them out anyways. Your just taking them off there hands without telling them. Am going to have to do this at night time steal Leaves also.

Nobody panics when people plant normal trees because its part of the plan... if someone plants a Palm EVERYONE LOSES THERE MINDS!

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Posted : 03/05/2011 3:02 pm
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