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It was nasty,a full fledged blizzard to be sure.
Everything that is covered is benefiting from the insulation,
even the Cactus "g-house" which is now completely(or almost)
leveled.
Tomorrow I will try to shovel the snow off and see if it can be lifted up.
Part of me wants to just leave it for 4 more weeks when I could just remove it,
the heavy snow on it keeps it between 28F and 38F even though it was -5F here last night.
The(east)crushed side.
Snow drift outside kitchen window-2nd floor
Here's what it "usually" looks like.
...and now-looks like a tidal wave hit it!
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Posted : 03/02/2011 8:09 pm
Wow Jim, it looks like here 😯
Is anything crushed underneeth that snow?? Im sorry to hear about it collapsing. I hope everything is ok
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Posted : 03/02/2011 10:02 pm
Man, that's a mass of snow!
I can see the dilemma, whether to remove the snow take the load off plants and structure, losing insulation.
Or keeping snow on to keep plants warmer and risk a longer "weight" on them.
I'd poke around with my hands first before using a shovel; I still think it's better than you fear.
And next winter...I'll hound you to place that tent pole in the middle...again. :cussing:
Is your cold weather scheduled to end?
With the cold still streaming in through New Mexico and north Texas, will that go south of you?
Barb
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Posted : 03/02/2011 10:52 pm
Jim,
that is a lot of snow.
Lots of collapsed roofs around here, but not here on the farm fortunately.
I foresee discussion on this forum about snow loads for palm shelters.
As for me, I am leaving snow in place around my palms to hold soil temps up.
This cell phone snap shot shows W clearing the driveway, while I sit in my truck to keep an eye out for traffic. --Erik
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Posted : 04/02/2011 7:54 am
Oh, Man Jim 😥 That is tough buddy, I was hoping it looked better in my mind after talking yesterday.
I wonder if you could just cut a hole in the south side end and take a peek in there before you remove the snow off it. If it looks ok you could just bury the part you cut open with snow, there's plenty of it 😯
Keep the faith, I'm sure pulling for everything to be ok, as is everyone else.
Bill
Posted : 04/02/2011 9:17 am
Holy cats Jim! 😯 I've been thinking of you guys out there since the big storm and seeing everything on the news I was wondering how everyones plants held out! hopefully yours will be safe as is under all of that snow. I've been checking in for a post on this weather....Sorry about your structure, I know I'd be a little freaked out! 👿
Heidi
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Posted : 04/02/2011 10:02 am
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Thanks for all ya'all's comments-I am pretending I am living on the south 🙂
I am not. 😕
Next week looks even colder with 3 days (nights actually)of sub-zero(F) cold forecast!
Barb
I don't think a tent pole would have done much but if I would have
stayed home and kept an eye on it,this could have been avoided 🙁
It's pretty solid until it's loaded unevenly,that was my bad.
Bill
That's a good idea about looking in from one side...
(curious to see where the heater and fan -that was hanging-is right now)
the zipper is actually on the west side that is partially still standing....
with the cold coming next week,the idea of leaving it 'as is' has
suddenly become more appealing. disgust
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Posted : 04/02/2011 12:59 pm
,the idea of leaving it 'as is' has
suddenly become more appealing.
:headbang:
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Posted : 04/02/2011 1:14 pm
We spent all day moving snow yesterday, and now it is snowing heavy--probably 10 cm already. 😡
I try to remind myself that it is palm root insulation. 😕
Jim, is this snow moving up to you? I thought it was a Texas thing but it moved north.
Posted : 04/02/2011 1:18 pm
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Luckily no snow for a while....not more than a few more inches anyway-
There was a chance of another big storm on Wednesday-
it now appears that one is going south,watch out down there!
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Posted : 04/02/2011 1:32 pm
It is snowing heavy right now. More in the forecast for Sunday + that big system for Wednesday.
I can say for sure that 35 oN is far too north for me! 😡
--Erik
Posted : 04/02/2011 1:36 pm
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15+" of snow(as you know) took out the g-house.
I dug out the collapsed g-house today-
The weight of the snow on it was ridiculous and I had to cut my way through the snow in 5 different places to get to it!
If you notice the height of the railing(1st pic) on the porch you can see how leveled the g-house was.-Thanks for pointing that out Bill!
Now look at where the top(porch railing) sits in comparison to the first pic.
Keep in mind there is 1 1/2 feet of snow on top!
Started digging
Crushed variegated Yucca spear poking through.
Crushed Colorgaurd Yucca-save me!
Space heater with the frame laying on it-
glad I walked home in the peak of the Blizzard to make sure everything was o.k.
and turned it off!
East side flat as a pancake.
Inside-amazingly the flat side was where most of the low stuff was-the trunk cut Fortunei from last year
was spared being severed/trunk cut again by the snow storm
Looking south-so glad the Yucca,Havardiana and Parryi(among others) were spared!
About as good as I could get it.
Note to self...stay home and keep snow off weakened g-house for future snows!
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Posted : 04/02/2011 6:12 pm
Jim,
thanks for making the effort to share photos and details.
The structural damage was bad, but the plant damage not as bad as I feared.
Can you get the heater going now? I hope so as next week will be cold.
I am a teacher so I had a snow day for the blizzard and could supervise snowfall.
But for the future, I'd like us all to research snow loads. Does anyone here work in construction?
--Erik
Posted : 04/02/2011 6:19 pm
We spent all day moving snow yesterday, and now it is snowing heavy--probably 10 cm already. 😡
I try to remind myself that it is palm root insulation. 😕
Jim, is this snow moving up to you? I thought it was a Texas thing but it moved north.
Oh no...Sorry to hear it!!!!!!!!!!!! 😡
Mike Trautner
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Posted : 04/02/2011 6:35 pm
Wow Jim, it looks like here 😯
Is anything crushed underneeth that snow?? Im sorry to hear about it collapsing. I hope everything is ok
UGGH...looks like here too...Can't wait for it to be over!!!!!!!
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