Sub-Speicies of Trachycarpus fortunei including Trac.Tesan

as if things aren't confusing enough. Now this?

There are some great pictures in the link. You should check them out.

I have had the pleasure of doing buisness with our friends in china. They very reliable and have many products you cannot get anywhere else. I love there fortunei with the leaf segments that form a perfect circle.

garrytsen

You've really done your homework there. Nice pictures.

Dean

Mike

If you ever deal with them again let me know. I want to try the Misan.

I bought a tesan seedling off of you on ebay last year. I must say they are different than any other trachy I have. The leaves are much coarser and they have a very rough texture on the backside of the leaf.

The genus Trachycarpus is quite varied without going to China. Even locally, leaf form, size, number of leaflets, stiffness of leaflets, trunk thickness, hasutla, petiole length or curvature, crown density, hardniness etc., are all different. It's easy for a grower to lay claim to a palms regional or featured distinction, and sell it as "unique" or "rare". (words often overly used these days)

Cheers, Barrie.

Thats true Barrie but You wont find anyone selling alot of the items they sell. I love the 360 degree leaf segments and those you cant get anywhere. I still will be doing buisness with them as I have always done. And there prices are very competitive

I can accept that to a certain degree macario,
The problem I have is growers / sellers that lay claim to what they refer to as "rare" or "exclusive", tag them with cultivar names, and expect a premium at the check out. I've grown these for 25 years and if your looking for anything wacky or unusual with Trachycarpus, I've got it, seen it, know where to get it, or have it planted.
I don't want to discredit this particular or any nursery, but make people aware that the palms they are seeking may not be as unusual or scarce as perceived, as refered to by any name.

Cheers, Barrie.

Nice pics garrytsen. Good to hear the -20 C tolerance!

What blows me away is the size ( 😯 ) of pots.
Look like 2 gallon ... soil's down a couple of inches from top, so those gorgeous palms are growing
in 6 to 8 inches of soil?

The nursery worker in the pic is encasing the pots in plastic, tying with a string, presumably for shipment.
Or are roots being "cooked" (high heat/humidity inside plastic bag) to help palm produce seeds?

The 360 degree variety is special indeed.
Barb

Barb,
I'd wager they where field grown with the fronds pruned hard, dug out, and root pruned to fit the very small containers shown.
You can not "cook" roots or stress these palms into seed production. It's seasonal and requires both male and female trees.

Cheers, Barrie.

Barrie,
That makes sense...now I don't feel so bad about how many roots my CIDP lost at transplant time. 😕
Yes I cut some fronds off (but probably not enough).

What a nursery operation ... neat pics!

Thanks for the explanation.
Barb

The following are some more useful links of photos for fun.

Are you growing princeps or martianus outside at your place?

I have some small seedlings of both which I kept in a unheated greenhouse that is right up against the house last winter. I didn't loose any of them.

I am just wodering about their hardiness.

I also agree with you that fortunei has so many varietions. I have some that you would swear are takil because of the large fronds and long petitoles and others like the one I got from you that started out with fronds like waggies and now they have curved large fronds that make it look like a waggie x fortunei. Some have full heads full of fronds and others that have fronds that are sparce and spread out.

I think I've got to have a TESAN...
I know I've got to have a TESAN,
yes, I'd plant it outdoors.

So, Barrie or Wes (or another Canadian source...I'm tired of getting import permits, i.e. Wollemia 😥 from Australia that never arrived)...if you guys can find me an authentic TESAN plant, let me know ASAP.
Unless there's 10 feet of snow on the COQ I can be in Vancouver in 5 hours 😆

No Tesan seed please.
Thanks.
Barb

I have never seen one in any nurseries.
If I do see some I will grab you one and let you know.