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lucky1
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Allen, glad your yucca made it thru the winter. That's a good sign that your others might be ok too.
Man, $10.97 that's cheap! At that price you could have a whole row of them 😀

You must be warming up soon...it was really mild here today; we'll send some over the mountains.
Does Edmonton get chinooks? or just Calgary?
Barb

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Posted : 18/03/2007 7:29 pm
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Chinooks are west coast salmon ... maybe in Alberta by courier.
Cheers, Barrie.

 
Posted : 18/03/2007 8:26 pm
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We are too far from the mountains to get many chinooks voluntarily. If you are sending I sure won't look a gift chinook in the mouth.
If I had my choice I would take one of Barrie's Chinooks. I'd even dig my barbeque out of the snow bank to cook it. 😆

Allen

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Posted : 18/03/2007 10:32 pm
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That's it then. Barrie'll send a Chinook and I'll send a Chinook.
Warm weather BBQ... 😀
Barb

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Posted : 18/03/2007 11:37 pm
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Now I get it ! (not knowing what an Alberta chinook was). As you cross this great country, there are many terms and expressions that are peculiar to certain regions. Where do these weather "chinooks" originate?

Allen ... I take it you don't BBQ year round? hahaha. Won't be long now buddy!

Cheers, Barrie.

 
Posted : 19/03/2007 12:05 pm
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Vancouver Island.

Just kidding. 'Chinook' is blackfoot for 'snow eater'. It starts with warm dry air at the surface in BC, usually in the Okanagan, and a westerly wind. The wind carries the warm dry air through mountain passes and it slides under the dry and colder Alberta air. The warm dry air literally sucks up the snow. You can tell a chinook is coming when there is a rainbow of gray cloud in the west. As the warm air gets closer, the area above the 'rainbow of cloud' becomes cloudy but the area below the rainbow stays clear. The Chinook can last anywhere from a few hours to about a day. I was in one when I was working in Banff and living in Canmore. The temperature went from -18 F to 40 F in a matter of hours and the snow cover dropped about a foot while the chinook blew through. Our snows are usually fluffy and dry so that a foot of snow doesn't contain much water. As soon as the chinook wind hits the cooler air and the snow, it starts getting wetter and colder. By the time that it gets well into Alberta, like Edmonton, it becomes a warm snow storm. There are several mountain passes big and straight enough that a decent sized chinook can get through.

The Pine Pass( McKenzie to Chetwyn ) lets Chinooks in as far as Dawson Creek and Grande Prairie. The Yellowhead Pass lets chinooks in as far as Whitecourt. Calgary gets their chinooks through the Rogers Pass and Lethbridge benefits from the Crowsnest Pass. Because Calgary is much closer to the mountains than the other places, it's chinooks are much stronger.

The chinooks that we got in Grande Prairie were much weaker and shorter, usually warming 15 to 20 degrees, reaching 33 F for a few hours and often accompanied by freezing rain.

We BBQed year round in Grande Prairie because the BBQ was on the deck, just outside the patio doors. I am building the patio so that we will be able to BBQ in the winter here. You haven't lived until you have stood outside in insulated pants and a parka with a big mug of hot coffee and Baileys clenched in your mitten while BBQing steaks. I should be set up for BBQing by this fall. So, come on over in January for a BBQ.

Allen

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Posted : 19/03/2007 2:28 pm
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Well for wins, I decided not to plant my Trachy F and Needle in the ground last year. This is a good thing as February was a horrible month 😯 as Yuccaman stated earlier. Though we didn't get as much ice as Trenton.

For loses, the Cavendish that I was overwintering in my cold cellar seems to have bit the dust. Up until a month ago it looked fine. Macario what method did you use to overwinter your large bananas?

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Posted : 19/03/2007 2:41 pm
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Philmusa I used a small fan that rotates back and forth over the bananas to keep the very dry.

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Posted : 19/03/2007 8:32 pm
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All my trachy's, washy's, euros, butia's, euchy tree's, musa's, oleander's, yucca's, cordy's- garaged- pulled through with no problems..

My hardened off Chinese Fan Palm and Lady Palm came through almost unscathed @ a bottom out of -8C..

Losses-My coffee tree, gardenia, mango and rosemary bush all look rough having bottomed out at -8C..

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Posted : 19/03/2007 8:59 pm
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Barrie 😆 😆
Allen, great description of chinook formation, never knew all that. Thanks!
Re BBQ in winter cold, you left out only one thing...don't drop the BBQ tongs 'coz you have snow plants on and you can't bend to the floor! (c'est moi) 😯

Philmusa and Palmettoman, man, Ontario's had a bad winter (except November when YOU were still in runners and shorts).
How unfortunate you lost those plants this winter, what a shame those were beauties I bet.
Could it be too soon to tell?
How big was the coffee tree?

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Posted : 19/03/2007 10:20 pm
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Barb;

c'est moi aussi. That is why I hook my tongs on the strings that my wife sews on my mittens.

Palmettoman;

I hope that most of them pull through.

Philmusa;

It's a pity to have it hang in that long and then give up on you.

Allen

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Posted : 20/03/2007 3:02 am
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Barb;

c'est moi aussi. That is why I hook my tongs on the strings that my wife sews on my mittens.

Palmettoman;

I hope that most of them pull through.

Philmusa;

It's a pity to have it hang in that long and then give up on you.

Allen

You don't have to be crazy to grow palms in Alberta..... But it helps

 
Posted : 20/03/2007 3:02 am
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Allen,
...now that would be a picture!
Barb

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Posted : 20/03/2007 12:06 pm
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I would summarize this situation as a cumulative event, and not solely to blame on this season. Eucalyptus pulverulenta is notorious for it's crooked free form habit, and I've never seen this species of Eucalyptus grow upright. I wonder if I'd trimmed this low slung branch earlier in it's life that this might not have happened. Heavy wet snow broke this down low and now needs to be cut down. It'll shoot up from the stump but I wonder if the same thing will happen again.

A close shot of the damage.

An over all view of E. pulverulenta.

Cheers, Barrie.

 
Posted : 21/03/2007 9:20 pm
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Oh Barrie that is a shame 🙁 ...but can the section on the right (in pic), which is still somewhat upright, be saved by doing a clean cut with saw or pruners where the left section tore off? Some tree paint would keep insects out (and save sap).

Did it happen yesterday? We had a hell of a windstorm for about 2 hours Tuesday.

I know it's hard to cut that close to the ground but it's worth a try. I'd even try staking the surviving branch to a more vertical orientation. Anything to keep this beauty alive.

There's something to be said for keeping trees growing on a central leader. But as you suggest, it grows willy nilly no matter how you prune it.

Its crooked shape was half its charm, no doubt.

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Posted : 22/03/2007 12:06 am
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