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This Palmetto came from my cousins yard in Daytona Beach, the mother tree (that I don't have a picture of) is a really beautiful specimen. It reminds me of a S. Birmingham actually, it's a really slow grower too. Anyway against my best judgement my cousin convinced me not to hurricane cut it. Big mistake as it lasted about a month before I cut all the fronds off anyways, than about another month before spear pull and that really, really bad rot smell. I treated it with peroxide and funicide a few times and than gave up on it since the hole was about 10 inches deep and just nasty looking. I cut the trunk to about ground level and checked on it every once in a while, always nothing. Well today there was something, I was truely shocked two pieces starting to poke out. How awesome is that!
Now here's the question the weather is getting cooler and I'm not going to let it crap out again. I need to try and give this guy the best shot possible and I was wondering what I could give it to get it's carbs back up. I plan on protecting it well which will be easy since it so small. I plan on putting a strofoam box over it even now during night and rain and removing it when conditions are good. Thanks for the help guys! By the way the black hole was filled with water so many times I really can't believe it's alive. Here's some Pictures so you can all see what I'm working with.
April 4 coming off the truck to be planted. Then a sleat storm two days later!
Here it is right before spear pull.
And here it is today popping out!
Thanks,
Bill
Posted : 28/09/2009 3:50 pm
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Well once again the local greenhouses seem to be useless. I went to the nursery that has all the palms planted out front for some product for my poor little palm today. What a waste, I explaned that I needed a product to boast the potash/carbs for my plant not saying what it was. They guy said with a additude in front of anther customer "Why would you want to do that" I said I have a tree that needs help that might not be hardy in our area. He said "Why bother then" clearly trying to look smart or cool or what ever in front of the other guy. I told him not to worry about that and I've been doing this for years now. Well to make a long story short I told him what I should use in front of the other customer. (who chuckled with a smiled)
So I gave the palm a good dose of green sand, a ton of crushed up egg shells for protein, and soon root stimulator. I'll post the results in a few weeks. I'm covering it everynight that's under 50 degrees.
Bill
Posted : 29/09/2009 7:57 pm
I think you've got the right plan.I would just keep it dry(bud)and protected.You can see in the first pic it's all leaves and no roots,where is the new spear? I didn't see it in the last pic.
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Posted : 29/09/2009 9:14 pm
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Jim,
The new spear is the second to last picture! And yes that stump is the same day. Trust me if you saw the black stink spear pull hole you would be a believer too. I almost want to start heating it now. Trust me when I say this palm is no normal Palmetto! I will post pictures of moma when I go back to Fla. I don't want to lose this palm. I bet it is hardy!
Bill
Posted : 29/09/2009 9:25 pm
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Actually that first picture with the bag is all roots! I dug so very carefully, all sand and trust me I went down four feet easy maybe more. If I hurricane cut it I wouldn't be having this problem right now.
By the way the nana on the middle of my car is 15' right now! Oh yeah banana fuel!
Bill
Posted : 29/09/2009 9:30 pm
Bill,
Very cool. Good luck with it!
Mark
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Posted : 29/09/2009 10:21 pm
I get it.the yellow/brown part in the middle is the spear lifting up.Yea,it might be good to heat it (keep it above 32F)and keep a cover over it to create some heat.The cool thing is,once it spits out it's first black bile infested leaves LOL,it will be putting out some nice sized leaves,that will be super nice! 😛
Your nanars make mine look like they never grew 👿
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Posted : 29/09/2009 10:59 pm
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You know how to make them grow now Jim! Geez Your gdd is 800 more then me easy! You know what you have to do next year after our talks to get sick growth! I add at least 1200 gdd with the cables. That puts me at 4600 gdd under my buddies.
Bill
Posted : 29/09/2009 11:23 pm
Banana fuel! 8)
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Posted : 29/09/2009 11:44 pm
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You know what I'm talking about!
Bill
Posted : 29/09/2009 11:53 pm
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So what do you guys think my chances of survival are if I heat this guy? It's moved about a half an inch, and I cover it at night to retain heat.
Bill
Posted : 01/10/2009 10:49 pm
I think it will come back strong next year,the only delay would be if it puts out a few stunted leaves(which I'm sure it will) then maybe summer after next.If you build a little heat shelter around it that will help,some black mulch and a 3 sided wind break painted black to raise the temp. It's possible only the first leaf will be stunted-Good luck,keep us posted
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Posted : 01/10/2009 11:10 pm
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I think I might build it a palm hut Sunday if it's not raining that way I can keep it warm and maybe get a few leaves before December.
Bill
Posted : 01/10/2009 11:20 pm
