The traditional area for Sabal palmetto and Sabal minor is the swampy area in the south of Texas through Louisiana, Mississippi, Northern Florida etc. Usually they grow on land beside the swamp and prefer to have their roots 'wet'. I don't know about them growing in standing water. I would worry about trunk rot and falling over with the palmetto.

I don't know anything about Australia ferns.

Allen

Thanks Allen,
I think I've heard before about them growing in swamps,but can't imagine them growing along the cypress swamp tree,but I guess anything is possible.

Palmetto should do fine in swampy areas. They are native to areas that flood and as already pointed out, Sabal Minor grows in swamps in many parts of its range.

Palmettos are easily hardy to Zone 8 with a good amount of heat.

The Texas Palmetto (Sabal Texana) is native along water ways in Southeast Texas as they said.

A person in NJ planted a Sabal Minor in an area that flooded over a few inches and then froze and it survived.

I've found wild Sabal minors growing next to creek and river beds which are prone to flooding.

In Central Texas,
Dean

Thanks Dean.
I have no trouble in believing that,as much water I give them during thew summer,but the palmettos,I find it hard to imagine,but then again Steve has proven that parlor palms can grow in water .

Hi Don,

Saw pics SOMEWHERE on the internet...

If you've got some time...Google IMAGES Sabal Palmetto.
Click on every one of the 5,000 😯 thumbnails that are produced.

Give each click about 5 seconds and the content of the page comes up for a more thorough look and read.
Great way to spend a rainy Sunday...or an entire winter.

Somewhere in there (5,000 images), I saw many many 10 foot or so palmettos growing all around what looked like a swamp or swimming hole. They were so close to the water, their roots had to be in it! They looked great.

Barb

Don, can't find the previous "waterlogged" story...but here are a couple of links that might interest you:

Native Florida Plants for Freshwater Wetland Landscapes
Palms
Common Name Scientific Name Height Light Requirements
Cabbage/Sabal Palm Sabal palmetto 50’-60’ full sun to part shade
Paurotis Palm Acoelorrhaphe wrightii 15’-20’ full sun to part shade
Royal Palm Roystonea regia up to 75’ full sun to part shade
http://www.sccf.org/Plants%20for%20Wetlands.pdf

Culture: Sabal palms accept sun or shade and will tolerate drought as well as severe flooding. The trees grow at a moderate pace and are generally cold hardy and adaptable.
http://www.horticulturalconsultants.com/palm/sabal.html

Hope this'll
wet your appetite! 😉
Barb

Hi Barb,
Thanks for the info,I have to go to work today,but will goggle Sabal Palmetto,the first chance I get,because I would really like to try one in a container,there has been much talk about these palms.from other forums,and from people I keep running into,and thats one of the first questions they ask,if I'm growing one.I also,just might try one in the ground,in a micro climate area,just to see how hardy it really is!!!
Once again thanks a lot!

Don

Don, you'll drool over these pics:

You want a palm in water?

&imgrefurl= http://aoki2.si.gunma-u.ac.jp/BotanicalGarden/HTMLs/Nypa-fruticans.html&h=448&w=358&sz=37&hl=en&start=11&tbnid=aJ8XutTnIfKLMM:&tbnh=127&tbnw=101&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnypa%2Bfruticans%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3De n"> http://aoki2.si.gunma-u.ac.jp/BotanicalGarden/PICTs/Nypa-fruticans.jpe g" target="_blank">http://aoki2.si.gunma-u.ac.jp/BotanicalGarden/PICTs/Nypa-fruticans.jpe g"/> &imgrefurl= http://aoki2.si.gunma-u.ac.jp/BotanicalGarden/HTMLs/Nypa-fruticans.html&h=448&w=358&sz=37&hl=en&start=11&tbnid=aJ8XutTnIfKLMM:&tbnh=127&tbnw=101&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnypa%2Bfruticans%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den

&imgrefurl= http://www.mangrove.or.jp/cgi-bin/mangrove/detail.pl%3Fsc_code%3DSC004&h=500&w=500&sz=62&hl=en&start=13&tbnid=9WVv5dc52IiUMM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnypa%2Bfruticans%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3De n"> http://www.mangrove.or.jp/mangrove/img/photo/sc004-1m.jp g" target="_blank">http://www.mangrove.or.jp/mangrove/img/photo/sc004-1m.jp g"/> &imgrefurl= http://www.mangrove.or.jp/cgi-bin/mangrove/detail.pl%3Fsc_code%3DSC004&h=500&w=500&sz=62&hl=en&start=13&tbnid=9WVv5dc52IiUMM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnypa%2Bfruticans%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den

Barb

These palms struggle to survive here because of the lack of summer heat. They do not mind the wet winters but they just don't recover well without summer heat. I have sabal palmetto and sabal mexicana that are still too small for planting in the ground but I plan on doing so as soon as possible.

Sabal Minor is a different story. These survive well here but grow slowly, again without the summer heat. This is a palm I believe would do well in the Vernon, Kelowna areas.

Thanks Barb,your right thats what I'd like to have in my pond for sure!!!!

I got a few saw palmettos that I'm just received,and have potted up,I will try one outside if I can ever get one big enough.
I have the summer heat,and can protect them from the winter cold,so might get one to come hardy enough,if the pinto palm makes it thru winter,I think I can get a saw to make it also!

Hi Wes and Don,

Nypa Fruticans is commonly known as mangrove palm, how difficult is it for an American to buy these
from a southern nursery?
Wes, have you seen them for sale in Vancouver?

I'd love to have that sitting in my pond, too.
Naturally it'd overwinter indoors in a water-filled saucer

The first of the two links is a super photo...too bad we can't read the text 😐

Barb

You'd think they would sell these as houseplants,because you couldn't overwater them!!!!

Yup, good point, Don.

Here's Steve's Nypa fruticans thread (pond in his GH)
http://palmsnorth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10357#10357

I just posted an excerpt there from my palm encyclopedia.
Barb