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(@terdalfarm)
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I am negotiating with Amazing Gardens in Oklahoma city for a 30 gallon Sabal "Lousiana".
From what I can tell, this should require fairly minimal winter protection.
Does anyone have experience with this palm?
--Erik

 
Posted : 26/08/2010 11:14 pm
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I have 6 of them(as pictured in my current pic post),they are one of,if not my favorite Sabals!

I would definitely protect from cold wind and frigid Arctic temps.

Isn't AG in your state,if so-maybe it's pretty well acclimated 😀

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Posted : 27/08/2010 12:53 pm
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Thanks, Jim.
Yes, AG is here in Oklahoma. I'd like to assume that the particular ones Bryan is selling are used to the weather here; their website implies they are hardy in OKC without protection.
My microclimate is bad--full sun in summer, intense wind in winter. So, I will protect it winters, but hopefully it wouldn't need electricity.
--Erik

 
Posted : 27/08/2010 2:11 pm
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I think their hardy to -15C? Mabey -18C.... I belive their zone 7... All i know for sure is that they are hardier then S minor... and correct me if im wrong, but their native there correct?

Jim, was that you who was telling me they grow faster or recover faster then normal S Minor?

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Posted : 27/08/2010 3:33 pm
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That's a great size Erik.
Can't wait to see it.

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Posted : 27/08/2010 8:10 pm
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That sounds awesome Erik, I bet it's a big sucker too! Eat your Wheaties before you plant that one 😆

Canadianplant,
Sabal minor is tougher than Louisiana, and sabal minor Mcurtain is the native one to Oklahoma.

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Posted : 28/08/2010 10:09 am
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My issue with the cold hardiness rating is this-

so what if a palm is hardier if it grows to slow to recover?

My Lou's have put out 5 leaves this year,well......some of them..

Bill doesn't have to worry about about growth speed because he gets Trachy like growth
out of his Needle palms! 😉

Ask him how he does it before buying a slow palm 😀

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Posted : 28/08/2010 10:58 am
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Thanks for the support guys.
I'm hoping to take off from work Tuesday to go get it. Hopefully plant it that evening or Wednesday; we may get rain late in the week.
W and I are planning a "palm party" for Sept. 4, hoping that everyone we know who doesn't go out to a lake for labor day weekend will bring the kids over to swim. Grown ups will drink the beer W brewed or the wine she made. If any of you can drive down (I'm thinking esp. of you folks in Wichita!), let me know.
As for cold-hardiness, the AG site about their Sabal louisiana is here: http://www.alligatoralley.com/louisianafluitt.html
They claim that it is "nearly" as cold-hardy as Sabal minor but faster growing. 😀
--Erik

 
Posted : 28/08/2010 5:29 pm
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I would agree for what it's worth-great Sabal.
One of my favorites!

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Posted : 29/08/2010 11:26 am
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Thanks bill....

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Posted : 29/08/2010 2:03 pm
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Bryan from AG emailed me photos of his three 30g Sabal louisiana.
So, it looks like I'll be bringing home one of these on Tuesday.

#1
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#2
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#3
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Any suggestions on which one is the best?
--Erik

 
Posted : 29/08/2010 6:38 pm
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I like the first one Erik, looks ready to skyrocket.
If you can't decide, take all three (*grin*).

Great customer service emailing you pictures.

Barb

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Posted : 29/08/2010 6:58 pm
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Yea #1 has some purdy leaves!

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Posted : 30/08/2010 9:45 am
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I am negotiating with Amazing Gardens in Oklahoma city for a 30 gallon Sabal "Lousiana".
From what I can tell, this should require fairly minimal winter protection.
Does anyone have experience with this palm?
--Erik

I have a small one growing in an obscure spot behind a large shrub. I cannot remember where I procured it. Maybe eBay. Anyway, so far I have protected it by throwing some leaves on top and then putting a large ceramic planter over it.

Yours, being larger, will obviously be tougher. Nonetheless, I would heed the 2-3 years protection rule.

 
Posted : 30/08/2010 10:24 am
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Good advice-

because it looks like this palm is kept in a poly tunnel-

probably hasn't seen REAL winter weather!

So,you know what that means......build another Gazebo! 😯 😀

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Posted : 30/08/2010 10:31 am
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