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Protection for Needle palm in zone 6?

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(@sashaeffer)
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I hope his recovers.

All 3 of mine are planted outside and have plastic trash cans, or similar protection over them along with added mulch. It's all 3's first winter though, so we'll see. One has root ball surrounded by heat tape so not as worried about that one.

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Posted : 26/12/2012 10:08 am
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I hope his recovers.

Me too..... I do hope for the best, I would order another one just to be safe though, as it might take this one a while to recover, if it does.

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Posted : 26/12/2012 10:10 am
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It might be ok depends on how frozen the roots got. We got over a foot of snow last night had to dig out my Yucca Rostrata's I didn't protect them :(. I think they will be ok they they don't have any visible damage.

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Posted : 26/12/2012 11:57 am
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Bryce, I'm amazed that you're had a blizzard. I'm 200 miles north and we're dry and barely above freezing. We got our blizzard last Thursday.

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Posted : 26/12/2012 4:31 pm
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I knew it needs much better protection when potted, and thought that straw + blanket will do.
Well, we'll see if my palm recovers 🙁

Thanks for your answers

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Posted : 26/12/2012 5:00 pm
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Cuja1 I know it's kinda crazy because we usually don't get much snow, this storm mostly hit southern Illinois, and parts of southeast Missouri and western Kentucky.

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Posted : 27/12/2012 11:17 am
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thought that straw + blanket will do.

I believe the root area should never be the same temperature as the top.

Even in summer, roots suffer overheated in pots above ground.
I often put a potted palm into another slightly larger pot in summer, so the sun doesn't heat up the pot/roots.

Yet some people say it's no problem to keep potted plants (yuccas and cold hardy palms) outside in winter with roots freezing.
Never worked for me.

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Posted : 27/12/2012 12:42 pm
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I currently have a blanket over the top of my Needle Palm. I've read that they can go down to -23 with no issues. I may get out and blow the snow off around it and just put a insulated box around it before we get really cold snaps. We've only reached -9c at night a couple times so far.

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Posted : 01/01/2013 10:46 am
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If they are not well established or still young plants,constant freezing temps can cause spear-pull.

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Posted : 01/01/2013 11:09 am
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Jim, how long have you had yours in the ground? and do you protect them at all?

I have 3 that I planted this year, but have them all covered with trash cans, and mulched heavy before putting cans over the top..so hopefully they will do ok their first year in the ground.

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Posted : 01/01/2013 11:16 am
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I hope his recovers.

Me too..... I do hope for the best, I would order another one just to be safe though, as it might take this one a while to recover, if it does.

Just checked and it spear pulled 🙁

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Posted : 20/01/2013 6:04 am
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In this picture you can see the triple stacker over one Needle palm right in the center below the bike.

This one has been in for 5-6 years,it was pretty small when I planted it.

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The other one,in about 5 years-is under the rose cover all the way to the right of the one with the 5g bucket on top.

Although Needles are capable of withstanding cold-if they pull the recovery can set them back severely as they are slow to rebound.-if the leaves are discoloring from cold it is best to cover
them,esp in a climate like mine where it doesn't always warm up after cold waves.

I usually pull the covers when temps are above 40F for a few days-they are covered now after a couple days of 40s/50s...

The snow in these pics is from mid December-been snow free here for a few weeks now 🙂

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Posted : 20/01/2013 11:49 am
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Nice winter protection Jim it got down to 13 F last night and all my palms are still green. My Agave's Parryis and Harvadias are still looking good too. Ehh I am so ready for spring, I hate winter.

Bryce G.

 
Posted : 22/01/2013 11:30 pm
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My Needle palms get mulch at the base and some get a styrofoam bos and others get bubble wrap tarps or 4 foot flower pots. My biggest is 6+ feet and the best method so far is the box. For you you could get away with wrapping it tight mulch base, wrap with frost cloth and then use the bubble wrap insulation tarp.
Cheers
Mike

 
Posted : 24/01/2013 10:44 pm
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