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(@godfryd)
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Hi, it's very sad but I've lost All my palms that I had in the ground.
Trachycarpus Fortunei, Takil and Naini Tal.
Not by cold temperatures (max -24C) - they just rotten...
I tried to plant them on the top of small "mini hills" - but I see now it was not good enough.
My ground is in 90% pure clay. It keeps much water on my backyard. I realize now that if I want to keep some palms & yuccas in the ground I have to solve my water-caly problem first.

My palms:

and the water level in my ground - in last week.

Keep exoting!
Godfryd

 
Posted : 28/03/2012 4:05 pm
lucky1
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Oh, Godfyd, I am so sorry for your loss. 😥

Clay is horrible for palms and yuccas.

I feel your loss.
Barb

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Posted : 28/03/2012 7:49 pm
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That sucks. 😡
Find some gravel, stone, or broken concrete build a big mound and I bet you will have much better luck. 😉

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Posted : 28/03/2012 10:43 pm
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sorry about your palms. It appears you have a very high water table? If so you'll need to create a taller mound.

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Posted : 28/03/2012 11:12 pm
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I am sorry for your losses it's really horrible.

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Posted : 29/03/2012 12:32 am
(@cameron_z6a_n-s)
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Godfryd, this is sad news. Not to give you false hope, but the one thing I would suggest is to at least try cutting the palms down to the trunk, and see if any growth progresses. You should see some shots on the EPS forum of T. fortunei after this past winter in Holland.

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Posted : 29/03/2012 1:04 am
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That is a lot of water. My soil is dominated by clay and I live in a small valley formed by a creek. So it is very wet as well, but not like yours.

I would do what DesertZone recommends. Also, I sometimes dig the hole for a plant and then dig another hole at the bottom and fill it with gravel. This creates a drain of sorts.

 
Posted : 29/03/2012 10:42 am
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You may want to lift them and check the roots...cut off dead material and pot up with root stimulator.

If the roots are dead you will see it up top last.

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Posted : 29/03/2012 11:36 am
igor.glukhovtsev
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Godfryd, sorry man for the things have happened. I would you suggest following Jim's way finding if the plants are goners. And keep exoting anyway!

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Posted : 29/03/2012 1:12 pm
(@godfryd)
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One of my potted Chamaerops humilis strted to bloom. It's very first time to me to see that process - so I have some questions:
1. Is it male or female form?
2. What to do with it? Nothing? wait and see? Collect?

Can you help me?

Keep exoting!
Godfryd

 
Posted : 09/06/2012 12:11 pm
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Looks like female inflorescence. You need male pollen for successful pollination. Sometimes, but very rare, C. humilis develop hermaphroditic flowers.
My C. humilis v. cerifera also looks like female.



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Posted : 09/06/2012 3:04 pm
(@godfryd)
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Thank you Henoh!

Keep exoting!
Godfryd

 
Posted : 10/06/2012 1:27 am
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Did any of your palms come back?

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Posted : 10/06/2012 10:18 am
(@godfryd)
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Unfortunately not. I stopped buying new palms, I started to dry my backyard. First I have to do that and then I can think about new plants.

Yesterday I finished to make a outline for a little water-magazine 🙂 I left a miniature Island - and my kids love it 🙂 They want there a mini sand-beach 🙂

Keep exoting!
Godfryd

 
Posted : 11/06/2012 2:20 am
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Good luck

My Bulgarian Trachy finally recovered-I will try and get a pic

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Posted : 11/06/2012 11:12 am
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