Eric those pics look great. You really get an idea of what they look when older. I will add xbutiagrus as palms I must have. How fast will a one gal mule palm grow compared to say a one gal.Trachy?

John

Zone 7 is really pushing it for a mule palm. They typically are a zone 8 and above. However with the right micro climate they should be ok.
Mule palms are fast growers. Typically 18 to 24 inches a year. Usually between 2nd and 3rd year, they hit around the 3 ft mark and start pinnating. I am not aware of how well the Trachy does I have never personally grown them. I only know what people say here on the internet. I would ask Joe from Salt springs. He grows alot of them.

I like them too, and maybe if Banana Joe grows the hybrid, we could buy one from him (without the phyto and border hassle).
I'd be interested if you're getting one, John.

Great they like full sun.
Can they handle hot desert winds?

From all reports the hybrid is hardier than either parent.

Thanks for the great pics, Erik.
Barb

Well if Joe gets enough requests for them. Maybe I can just do a trade. I would like to have some of his Trachys, and whatever else he might have for zone 8

Here is a triple from bare root seedling to 3 years old.

Erik,
that's a lot of growth for only 3 years.
Great pics, especially of the germination of the triple. Relatively rare occurrence?

Here we are trading with Joe...I'm assuming John wants one too...and Joe's not even aware of these discussions.
😆 😆
Barb

So does this palm befit for my climate?
P.S. you can add a weather on a city Simferopol' vvekhu, where hurrying line. 😆

Great pics, especially of the germination of the triple. Relatively rare occurrence?

Barb ... Those are three seperate individuals, not from one seed.
Erik ... I'd be willing in bring some in to British Columbia.

Cheers, Barrie.

Those are not three separate seeds. Those are all from 1 seed. Look closely.

And no that is not a normal occourance. However we have been getting alot of them this year. Especially doubles. Here is a photo of a 6ft double, and a couple in front of Richards Yard with a date palm.

and a double seedling.

Eric we have some miscomunication in regards to planting mule palms. I`m aware of what will survive here in a zone 6b-7a.50% of the palms I grow will not survive winter here without protection. I was looking to grow some mule palms in containers or plant them in pots. The queen palm side of the hybrid must be the factor in which they grow so fast. Have any Xbutiagrus been tested for any length of time for winter hardiness in the Pacific northwest? I see they are rated about -12c 10f. Do you plan on having phyto certificates for shipping to B.C. as I`m sure many palm people here would be purchasing from you?

John

Those are not three separate seeds. Those are all from 1 seed. Look closely.

I stand corrected Erik ... thanks. I've seen Butia grown in multiples.

Cheers, Barrie.

John as far as im aware they have not been tested in the PNW. They are doing well in the U.K., france, and ireland, we have a couple in front of the Mirage in vegas. There have been a couple people that have them in Victoria, and as far as I know there doing fine. That is why we have 200 on San Juan Island now. We have a few seedlings in the ground, and a few six footers we will keep non protected all winter to see how well they do. We can get a certificate for Canada. I have been talking with Barrie, I think if we just do a big shipment of some bare root seedlings and only have to pay for one certificate would be wise. Rather then taking a bunch of orders. It would save everyone alot of money and time.

Erik

That'd be the smart way to do it.
If Barrie agrees, we'd naturally all offer to cover his extra handling and shipping, as well as sharing in the phyto cost.

I'm really impressed with the look of this hybrid, and definitely want two or three.

BTW Erik, any chance you have a couple of Hyophorbe lagenicaulis kicking around somewhere? (sorry to change the subject folks).

Barb

Barb ... as mentioned, Erik and I have had some very preliminary e-mail exchanges regarding getting some of these on, and in Canadian soil. I'm certainly willing to bring in what may be needed for those willing to participate. Once in my hands I can send them out at cost, to the interested parties.

If anyone of the crazy palm growing Canadians are interested you can PM me and let's get the ball rolling. I was thinking of having two dozen sent anyway.

Cheers, Barrie.