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lucky1
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Someone had asked which palms can take waterlogged soils.
These pics show trees standing in water.
Barb

http://www.plantapalm.com/vpe/photos/Species/nypa_fruticans.htm

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Posted : 01/11/2007 4:31 am
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I think also sabal minor can be in standing water.

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Posted : 01/11/2007 5:27 am
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Chamaedorea cataractarum is a Rheophyte, also one of the hardier ones.
I've been growing some partially submerged, and even completely submerged. ( The roots grow up and out of the submerged container , it is sort of cool to be able to watch them form 8)

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Posted : 04/11/2007 1:54 am
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These would seem ideal for any palm lover who tends to overwater 😉

Do the roots ever head back INTO the water? or continuously seek dry land?
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Posted : 04/11/2007 5:44 am
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The roots stay under the water but do green up a bit once the light hits them

Chamaedorea elegans is also another good candidate.

Barb, Your link shows Nypa fruticans in habitat, here is the one I have in the GH.

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Posted : 04/11/2007 6:47 am
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Great pic...interesting how many fine roots there are. Just think of the benefits of having a goldfish in there!
Wonder why people would bother with milfoil in an aquarium when they could have a PALM!
Since you water your plants from fishpond, obviously good results.

Even elegans likes being in water?
No wonder I had trouble! It was too dry.

Re Nypa, cool that you have one! And your Selloum looks good.
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Posted : 04/11/2007 7:13 am
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Steve,

Nice setup makes me wish I had a greenhouse again.

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Posted : 04/11/2007 1:13 pm
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Wonder why people would bother with milfoil in an aquarium when they could have a PALM!

There are actually a few tutorials on plants in brackisch water aquaria who mention besides mangroves also palms. My guess is that only is Nypa fruticans is really suitable.

Well, that advice serves only people with huge tanks with lots of headroom ... as palms are like mangroves ... trees. 😆

 
Posted : 06/11/2007 10:36 am
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Nypa is one of the few that will tolerate brackish water, most prefer fresh water.
Chamaedorea cataractarum is a smaller one that can be managed in a greenhouse setting for many years 8)

Link is to a good article on aquatic Palms.

http://www.victoria-adventure.org/aquatic_plants/jorge/page1.html

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Posted : 06/11/2007 1:48 pm
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Good point, dilbert, about aquarium size restrictions.
But outdoor fishponds...it would be exciting to grow a palm in a pond.

Fish get protection from birds and the palm gets fishy water.

Steve, that link is very interesting.
Hope tropicman sees it, he was looking for palms that could handle waterlogged areas.

I like the Chelyocarpus dinaerius...and I bet you noticed the Zamia roezlii, Z. chigua and Z. purpurea references 😉
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Posted : 06/11/2007 3:14 pm
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But outdoor fishponds...it would be exciting to grow a palm in a pond.

Only with Nypa fruticans I fear you would have to climb up the USDA zones quite a bit. 😉

But the others could be a good start, maybe.

 
Posted : 07/11/2007 9:50 am
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dilbert, I'd have to cut the zones in half 😆
The palm (in a pot) in the fishpond would be removed at the end of summer, long before pond freezes over.
Barb

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Posted : 07/11/2007 12:28 pm
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