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(@brandonppr)
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Nice!
Yes, do save room for windmill palms you can sit under in their shade. 😀
I also suggest needle palms for places away from walking/playing paths. They should be completely hardy for you.
And of course dwarf palmettos, if you can find them for sale.
If you don't mind doing more winter protection (i.e., electric heat), a big pindo palm would look spectacular. They grow fast down south (i.e., Florida) so even a big one ought to be affordable.

What is needed for a pindo palm? what do you mean by electric heat?

 
Posted : 11/07/2011 11:34 pm
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They are beautiful, fast growing and can take temps to the lower teens oF. If I was in TN, I'd wrap the trunk with thermostat controlled pipe heat tape (cheap at every hardware store) and wrap burlap over that. Doesn't look bad. Then, string big Christmas lights denesly on the leaves. That should do for all but the worst dozen or so nights. For those, drape frost cloth over it all. Spray with fabric protector if it will rain before the cold. If not by a fence, use stakes to hold the fabric up under snow. I would also set a bunch of warm water jugs around the base for the worst nights.
You ought to be ables to order big (30 + gallon or box) pindo palms from your local nursery.
One more thing: they LOVE full sun and intense heat, but hate wet roots so plant it where the soil drains very we'll. Your windmills tolerate wet roots but pindos palms don't like that.

 
Posted : 12/07/2011 12:04 am
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They are beautiful, fast growing and can take temps to the lower teens oF. If I was in TN, I'd wrap the trunk with thermostat controlled pipe heat tape (cheap at every hardware store) and wrap burlap over that. Doesn't look bad. Then, string big Christmas lights denesly on the leaves. That should do for all but the worst dozen or so nights. For those, drape frost cloth over it all. Spray with fabric protector if it will rain before the cold. If not by a fence, use stakes to hold the fabric up under snow. I would also set a bunch of warm water jugs around the base for the worst nights.
You ought to be ables to order big (30 + gallon or box) pindo palms from your local nursery.
One more thing: they LOVE full sun and intense heat, but hate wet roots so plant it where the soil drains very we'll. Your windmills tolerate wet roots but pindos palms don't like that.

Thanks for the info 🙂

 
Posted : 12/07/2011 12:14 am
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We can go into more detail as we get into winter protection discussions later in the year. For now, I just want to convince you that a big Butia is doable and surprisingly affordable. I've kept one alive in much colder temps than you will ever get, and they grow so fast with sun and heat. And have to be one of the best looking palms in the world!

 
Posted : 12/07/2011 12:22 am
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We can go into more detail as we get into winter protection discussions later in the year. For now, I just want to convince you that a big Butia is doable and surprisingly affordable. I've kept one alive in much colder temps than you will ever get, and they grow so fast with sun and heat. And have to be one of the best looking palms in the world!

I do like that palm. This would have to be a purchase for next year. I've got too much left to finish this year and I have spent a lot of money so far this year.

I am going to have to go to another nursery. The one I bought the palms for said they couldn't order anything and what they have is all they offer. I can't see to find much online in a few searches. The ones I am seeing online are tiny and are like $600. I don't mind driving to get something if its not too far away. We usually go to panama city beach each year and I might be able to find something to bring back with me.

 
Posted : 12/07/2011 2:35 am
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Do any of you know what this plant is? I bought it in panama city beach fl 3 years ago. It survived some pretty cold air in a pot. I took them in the first year and sat them in the garage all winter with no light. They came back the next year, but not as big. Last winter I left them out and they survived quiet a while before the cold got to them. I think they may could be protected and make it thru the winter, but I lost them last year and I don't know what the name of the is. They flowered the entire time I had them from spring till fall. This plant lost its blooms every night and was full of blooms the next day. The flowers just fall off and there are new ones to replace them.

 
Posted : 13/07/2011 1:42 pm
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I think I may have found it, Mexican bluebell. Any of you tried to leave these out all year with protection?

http://www.gardenguides.com/77584-germinate-mexican-petunia-seeds.html

Overview
Heat-loving Mexican petunia, or Ruellia brittoniana, is also called Florida bluebell, desert petunia, Mexican bluebell, wild petunia, garden ruellia and narrow leaf petunia. Violet-blue, white or pink flowers bloom summer and fall. Each lasts for only one day, but copious buds form continuously for extended blooming periods. Carefree and tender perennials hardy in USDA zones 7 to 9, ruellia die back from hard freezes. But unharmed roots bring them back in spring. Abundantly self-seeding, small colonies of Mexican petunias spread rapidly. Seeds easily germinated indoors by even beginners can be moved to sunny or partially shaded locations outside after frost.

Read more: How to Germinate Mexican Petunia Seeds | Garden Guides http://www.gardenguides.com/77584-germinate-mexican-petunia-seeds.html#ixzz1S0iGsFFK

 
Posted : 13/07/2011 1:57 pm
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Yes, one of our favorites. Spreads each year; invasive down in Florida.
Mulch keeps the roots alive. Loves sun and heat.
Hummingbirds love the blooms.
Bill MA had them last year. I'd lie to know if his came back.

 
Posted : 13/07/2011 4:03 pm
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Very pretty.
Except for the self-seeding part...

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Posted : 13/07/2011 7:04 pm
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These are really cool, they grow wild here if close to walls or warm concrete and can overwinter....

Mike Trautner

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Posted : 13/07/2011 10:19 pm
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I might give some of those a try for the front yard. Maybe I can find some now that I know the name of them.

I got four of the palms planted today and the dirt filled in around them. Hopefully I can get the rest tommorow.

 
Posted : 14/07/2011 9:55 pm
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Perfect in that planter!

What a great view while sitting on the patio this summer.

How about along the fenceline?
Have you decided yet on what you're getting?
Remember that your fenceline palms are further away from the house, therefore anything less than Trachies will need considerable protection over winter.
(Extension cords all over the place are risky...)

I love it already!
Barb

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Posted : 14/07/2011 10:25 pm
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Perfect in that planter!

What a great view while sitting on the patio this summer.

How about along the fenceline?
Have you decided yet on what you're getting?
Remember that your fenceline palms are further away from the house, therefore anything less than Trachies will need considerable protection over winter.
(Extension cords all over the place are risky...)

I love it already!
Barb

I plan on crapes along the fence to block out the houses in the summer.

Also There will be plugs in every planting area.

 
Posted : 14/07/2011 11:57 pm
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Nice planning job, Brandon!

I can already picture it in a few years with crapes flowering and palms swaying in the breeze...good job!

Barb

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Posted : 15/07/2011 5:05 pm
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Nice planning job, Brandon!

I can already picture it in a few years with crapes flowering and palms swaying in the breeze...good job!

Barb

Thanks.

I plan on putting out some potted palms around the pool and patio as well.
What could I use that I could sit in for the winter? I don't have a tall ceiling in the house. Its 8ft so that limits me a little. I plan on taking out the rear door and the window next to it and replacing it with a 3 door all the way across there. One with lots of glass so that I can get some light in the house and have a nice view of the yard once its finished.

I didn't get anything done today. I had to go out of town, but I hope to get some work done tomorrow.

 
Posted : 16/07/2011 12:01 am
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