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lucky1
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Nice row of T. fortunei next to the railway tracks in Dusseldorf Germany 51 N.
Age? 20+ years?

W.filifera in Frankfurt 50.7N

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Posted : 08/02/2010 1:44 pm
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Nice find Barb. It looks like there's a pretty good sized Phoenix in the background of the filifera's too.

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Posted : 08/02/2010 1:53 pm
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Holy cow, look at the J.chilensis from the same site.

Bill, yep! 😀

I've seen a few protection pics on that site.
Very few palms are protected from moisture at the top.

Wonder what they look like after their winter this year.

Barb

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Posted : 08/02/2010 2:01 pm
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Nice! 😀

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Posted : 08/02/2010 2:45 pm
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Thanks for posting those Barb. Germany has the gulf stream to thank to have those palms still alive over the years.What I wouldn`t give to have a couple of Washy`s that big in my yard.

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Posted : 09/02/2010 4:57 pm
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I have not been to Germany in a long time (10 years?). I remember a few Trachy in the ground plus abundant Chamearops in very large wooden pots on pallets that looked like a fork-lift could bring them indoors in extreme cold. Thus, the Washy's astound me. Hey, I can't even grow them here at 36oN latitude! Not fair! --Erik

 
Posted : 09/02/2010 9:45 pm
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I remember when I arrived from Malaga (Spain) to Berlin. It was summer and the difference was almost 20 c. In Berlin there was 15 c 🙂 So it was almost like in home but it is even suprise to me that they can grow washies outside. Germany is deeper in south but they grow palms in Norway too.

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Posted : 10/02/2010 5:56 am
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Palms in Norway!
I am trying to get my cousin who lives on an island south of Bergen to try a palm. --Erik

 
Posted : 10/02/2010 10:19 am
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This older thread caught my eye.

I lived in Heidelberg, Germany for a year back in the mid 90s. The town is located along the banks of a river with small mountains on either side. Just above the base of one of the mountains, I discovered a group of 10 foot Trachys growing. I was shocked to say the least.

But the piece d'resistance was Italy where my girlfriend at the time lived. Sure, we all know that a good portion of Italy boasts a mild climate perfect for palms. But she resided in the Valle d'Aosta way up in the Alps not too far from Mont Blanc. These mountains are high enough to have snowcaps even during the Summer. And right across the road from her house stood a 20 foot Trachy. I saw it during the warm months and then covered with snow during the Winter. I also sighted some more here and there. I could not get over it until her father showed me some book that described how they originally came from colder altitudes in China.

These instances are what sparked my interest in hardy palms. The rest is history. 🙂

 
Posted : 29/04/2010 1:30 pm
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<Bump>

This older thread caught my eye.

I lived in Heidelberg, Germany for a year back in the mid 90s. The town is located along the banks of a river with small mountains on either side. Just above the base of one of the mountains, I discovered a group of 10 foot Trachys growing. I was shocked to say the least.

But the piece d'resistance was Italy where my girlfriend at the time lived. Sure, we all know that a good portion of Italy boasts a mild climate perfect for palms. But she resided in the Valle d'Aosta way up in the Alps not too far from Mont Blanc. These mountains are high enough to have snowcaps even during the Summer. And right across the road from her house stood a 20 foot Trachy. I saw it during the warm months and then covered with snow during the Winter. I also sighted some more here and there. I could not get over it until her father showed me some book that described how they originally came from colder altitudes in China.

These instances are what sparked my interest in hardy palms. The rest is history. 🙂

Good story. thanks for sharing. 🙂

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Posted : 30/04/2010 2:51 pm
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Yes, I like that "connection" story, too (and the reference to palms coming from China).
Thanks!

Heck, what I'd give for a Gulf Stream.

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Posted : 30/04/2010 6:09 pm
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I was also lucky to live in Germany - Dusseldorf - for a year, about 10 years ago. THere was no snow whatsoever throughout the whole winter, but a lot of rain. When I went to the local botanical gardens, I almost fainted seeing Eucalytpuses outside!!! They were E. gunnii, about 5 m tall, still with juvenile leaves.

Ok, you might not believe it, but there is one small area in Germany - in the famous Rhine valley - , where figs and lemon is grown....

And as for Bergen in Norway, its nickname is the "rainiest city in Europe" - what a nickname -, but also, it never snows there!!!! Crazy, eh? NOrway benefoits the most of the Gulf Stream, it si estimated that its yearly average temperatureis about 5 C degrees higher than it would be without it. Bergen has about 5-6 C degrees yearly average ...

I decided to grow Camellias and tea in Oakville. I don't mind --> let my nickname be "Rob, the mad gardener of Oakville".....

 
Posted : 30/04/2010 9:39 pm
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I was also lucky to live in Germany - Dusseldorf - for a year, about 10 years ago. THere was no snow whatsoever throughout the whole winter, but a lot of rain. When I went to the local botanical gardens, I almost fainted seeing Eucalytpuses outside!!! They were E. gunnii, about 5 m tall, still with juvenile leaves.

Ok, you might not believe it, but there is one small area in Germany - in the famous Rhine valley - , where figs and lemon is grown....

And as for Bergen in Norway, its nickname is the "rainiest city in Europe" - what a nickname -, but also, it never snows there!!!! Crazy, eh? NOrway benefoits the most of the Gulf Stream, it si estimated that its yearly average temperatureis about 5 C degrees higher than it would be without it. Bergen has about 5-6 C degrees yearly average ...

I decided to grow Camellias and tea in Oakville. I don't mind --> let my nickname be "Rob, the mad gardener of Oakville".....

 
Posted : 30/04/2010 9:40 pm
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I spent a couple of months in Germany (January, February) about 15 years ago. Part of that time was in Wuppertal, near Dusseldorf. Dark, but as you say no snow.
I've only been to Bergen in June (midnight sun!). I fondly remember the day it got up to 78oF and the young ladies took off their tops on the beach; it was a record heat wave there.
I'm hoping my cousin tries a Trachy. I think they'd be happy, and grow like mad each Summer.
As for Camellias, yes, give them a try! My new one made it through the winter despite my worst efforts. Now I have to hope it survives my Summer heat. --Erik

 
Posted : 01/05/2010 8:29 am
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I was also lucky to live in Germany - Dusseldorf - for a year, about 10 years ago. THere was no snow whatsoever throughout the whole winter, but a lot of rain. When I went to the local botanical gardens, I almost fainted seeing Eucalytpuses outside!!! They were E. gunnii, about 5 m tall, still with juvenile leaves.

Ok, you might not believe it, but there is one small area in Germany - in the famous Rhine valley - , where figs and lemon is grown....

And as for Bergen in Norway, its nickname is the "rainiest city in Europe" - what a nickname -, but also, it never snows there!!!! Crazy, eh? NOrway benefoits the most of the Gulf Stream, it si estimated that its yearly average temperatureis about 5 C degrees higher than it would be without it. Bergen has about 5-6 C degrees yearly average ...

I decided to grow Camellias and tea in Oakville. I don't mind --> let my nickname be "Rob, the mad gardener of Oakville".....

That is probably the Weinstrasse near the French border. I think that is the warmest part of the country.

Another "anomaly" is the Bodensee on the Swiss and Austrian borders. Its a lake that is actually a bulge in the Rhine. The town of Konstanz feels a lot like Portland or Vancouver with a dash Santa Barbara. There are lots of huge conifers imported from the Pacific Northwest.

And then there is this island on the lake called Mainau. It has the most amazing gardens surrounding the palace. Everything under the sun including Redwoods and very exotic palms. I never saw it in the winter. One fella told me the lake warms it while another told me they encase the palms in glass when it gets cold. They must as these are right out of Tahaiti.

 
Posted : 02/05/2010 2:46 pm
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