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(@timmaz6)
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I visited my brothers place in Fairfax, Virginia (just outside Washington DC) and took some photos of his palms.

Trachy:
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Trachy ? with nice blue undersides:
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Same Trachy with blue undersides??:
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Sabal minor 'North East Texas Ecotype from Don of OKC' with loads of seeds:
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Sabal minor:
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Sabal minor seed:
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Needle palm:
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Posted : 01/12/2010 9:08 pm
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Those look great!
Does he have to protect them in any way?
I especially like the Sabal minor. Given his source, I may have a younger relative as the freebie I got with my S. "Louisiana."
--Erik

 
Posted : 01/12/2010 10:21 pm
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Nice shots, Tim! You should also post the giant rostrata on this board 😀

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Posted : 01/12/2010 11:08 pm
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Wow, those palms look really really happy. Are the trachys growing in part shade? Theres no need to protect there right?

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Posted : 02/12/2010 8:42 am
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Love the bluish cast on fronds.

...and that Sabal minor with seeds.
I have one but it hasn't put on any growth in 2 years.

Please ask your brother 2 things:
1. how old is it/how long planted?
2. what's his "trick" with minors (he's obviously doing something very right).
(i.e. acid or alkaline soil? what type of fertilizer? regular or infrequent watering?)

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Barb

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Posted : 02/12/2010 9:57 am
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I think he practices Santaria 😯

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Posted : 02/12/2010 9:58 am
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Very nice selection,looks like all the Sabals/Needles are well acclimated
and in no need of protection.

Love the blue/white undersides on the Trachy!

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Posted : 02/12/2010 9:59 am
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Tim,

What a nice looking bunch of palms. Is that blueish trachy one of the nanitals from you? And how about the others? The Louisianas sure look like they got a hold on there spot now, they must have been really little when they crapped out years ago.

Hope you had a nice visit.

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Posted : 02/12/2010 10:18 am
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Nice palms!

Confirmation that I am not the only palm eccentric in this region.

 
Posted : 02/12/2010 10:22 am
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Hi Erik,

the trachys will typically die unless moisture protected. The survivors were moisture protected and are now thriving. Several Trachies died last winter with no protection.

Hi Cameron,

the Yucca rostrata photos were posted on this board under the Yucca section.

Canadianplant,

the S. minors and needles don't need protection. The Trachys tend to die with excess moisture/cold in his area. The Trachies not protected are dead. And yes, those Trachies do get at least 1/2 shade in summer.

Hi Barb,

I think I gave him the S. minor plants (small liners) back in 2007. Nice growth rate! I also gave him some Trachies and needles. The needles have survived. Most of the Trachies have died but a few are still kick'n since he protected them. Regarding the growth rate.......he doesn't do much at all. Northern Virginia is very humid and warm in summer .................I'm sure this helps. They also have a clay type soil......much different than our soil type.

Hi Jim,

Yes, nice blue underside! Trachys are protected or they die.

Hi Bill,

I forget what that blue underside Trachy is.......I don't think it was my nanital since he had two.......I think I gave him one????? Those Sabals are minors from Northeast Texas. I did give him a S. louisiana but this dies to the ground every winter but is still alive.

Hi Jack,

Yes, it' nice to see palms down there......I wish I Could have seen the monkey puzzle in gEORGETOWN.

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Posted : 02/12/2010 5:43 pm
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Thanks for the info ... good to know.
Barb

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Posted : 02/12/2010 6:56 pm
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Tim,
thanks. Lots of good info. there.
Trachy--OK, I get it. Moisture protection. Follow up: how?
Sabal "Louisiana": oh, no! 😯
Given your source for the S. minor "NE Texas Ecotype" I am pretty sure my S. Louisiana is the same. Amazing Gardens, right? Bryan and/or Don in OKC? Any advice for me on how to preserve the leaves through winter?
--Erik

 
Posted : 02/12/2010 7:09 pm
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Hi Erik,

my brother constructs a mini greenhouse over the Trachy's (6 mil over top of Trachy so rain will not get into leaf crown).

Sabal louisiana is not fully hardy in my brothers climate. It typically dies to ground each winter but regrows.....it looked OK when I was there. You can see it next to the gate in the photo below (in the back of the photo near gate)........not too bad looking! If they get a warmer than normal winter it may not die and will take off!! And yes, the seedlings for both the minor and louisiana were from Don of OKC back in 2001.
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Posted : 02/12/2010 10:26 pm
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Tim,
thank you very much. I bought a big S. "Louisiana" (roots filled a 30 gallon trash can) that had a small NE Texas S. minor in there in September from Bryan/Don. I was thinking wind protection and mulch would be sufficient, but we definitely get colder than the D.C. area. Maybe I need to find a way to run a long extension cord to it to give some electric heat. I am glad to know this now vs. in January.
I think Trachy can take my cold, but I agree about trying to keep water out of the crown. I'll get to work on that. So far I have only done that for the two Waggy (just 'cause I value them more) and the smallest T. fortunei but I'll get cracking on the other 2 T. fortunei.
You say his needle palms need no protection at all? Good news. I planted my first three last Spring. I'll give them some protection, but ultimately I want at least some palms that need no protection at all. 😀
Any more tips?
--Erik

 
Posted : 02/12/2010 10:44 pm
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Hi Erik,

My brother has tried lots of palms (mostly smaller in size 1 to 5 gallon to start with....even smaller 2yr old liners). The only palms which survived with no deaths and no protection were Sabal minor and Needle palm. Everything else has issues, needs protection or is dead. I know he killed Sabal ursana (spelling?) but this did OK for a couple years. I'm pretty sure I have him some Butias too which died 1st winter.

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