Can I water it now?
 
Notifications
Clear all

Can I water it now?

24 Posts
8 Users
0 Reactions
15.5 K Views
lucky1
(@lucky1)
Posts: 11322
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

My 30-year old fortunei has only been outside in its pot (on top of 1" styrofoam) for a month or so.
Hasn't been watered since Oct.
I think it needs water. Our days are milder +4 to +10, and nights -1 to +2. What do you think?

<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/weathersticker/cgi-bin/banner/ban/wxBanner?bannertype=wu_bluestripes_both&airportcode=CWJV&ForcedCity=Vernon&ForcedState=Canada&wmo=71115&language=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Vernon, CA" width="160" />

If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.

 
Posted : 06/03/2007 11:37 am
(@oppalm)
Posts: 694
Honorable Member
 

stick your finger in the dirt down several inches, if its dry I'd water sparingly. no need to soak it, but don't let it dry out either.

Kent in Kansas
where it's cold in winter (always)
and hot in summer (usually)
<object width="290" height="130"><param name="movie" value="http://www.wunderground.com/swf/pws_mini_rf_nc.swf?station=KKSOVERL7&freq=2.5&units=english&lang=EN" /><embed src="http://www.wunderground.com/swf/pws_mini_rf_nc.swf?station=KKSOVERL7&freq=2.5&units=english&lang=EN" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="290" height="130" /></object>

 
Posted : 06/03/2007 4:03 pm
lucky1
(@lucky1)
Posts: 11322
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

Dry as a bone, it was like pushing my finger into cement that's almost set! Ouch!
So it got a pail of water.
I think I heard it say "thanks" 😆
There are 2 spears on their way up (for the last couple of months) that'll likely appreciate the water, too.

<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/weathersticker/cgi-bin/banner/ban/wxBanner?bannertype=wu_bluestripes_both&airportcode=CWJV&ForcedCity=Vernon&ForcedState=Canada&wmo=71115&language=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Vernon, CA" width="160" />

If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.

 
Posted : 06/03/2007 7:23 pm
(@anonymous)
Posts: 1327
Noble Member
 

"Hasn't been watered since Oct" wow! I know things are different here cause ours are doused from Oct to March in the seasonal rains on the west coast. I'd water that palm but good! Is that palm still wearing the poncho?

Cheers, Barrie.

 
Posted : 06/03/2007 7:25 pm
lucky1
(@lucky1)
Posts: 11322
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

Until this year I had always kept it inside the cold (barely-heated) building all winter where all my plants spend winter.
The low temps made watering almost unnecessary, even up against the south windows.
Since I started keeping all my plants in that building, my 30-year old jade has bloomed like mad. They never did well in the house, too warm and dry with a woodstove, I suppose.

Yours get doused all winter? I thought you folks had said to keep rain off the spears in the winter 😕

I took the poncho off, here it is naked again.
The soil had pulled away from the pot, so I gave it two more buckets of water when I was taking these pics.

It's 12 C now...fabulous.

Oh, another thing.
Had to go to Home Depot today... 😉 but didn't buy anything as there's nothing new from the last time.
What I did notice, though, was that there were a LOT of plants, palms included, whose tag said TROPICAL FOLIAGE.
No names, nothin'...are nurseries getting lazy?

<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/weathersticker/cgi-bin/banner/ban/wxBanner?bannertype=wu_bluestripes_both&airportcode=CWJV&ForcedCity=Vernon&ForcedState=Canada&wmo=71115&language=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Vernon, CA" width="160" />

If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.

 
Posted : 06/03/2007 7:48 pm
Laaz
 Laaz
(@laaz)
Posts: 747
Prominent Member
 

What I did notice, though, was that there were a LOT of plants, palms included, whose tag said TROPICAL FOLIAGE.

Welcome to the world of Home Depot / Lowes / Walmart.... I just got back from Lowes, they have a 12 Ft Foxtail palm in a 7 gal container with the same TROPICAL FOLIAGE tag & a $96 price tag...

http://citrus.forumup.org/

 
Posted : 06/03/2007 7:57 pm
lucky1
(@lucky1)
Posts: 11322
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

Jeez, a Foxtail...kinda pricey (glad I didn't see it at MY store, ha ha).

So what do nurseries do? As they start loading trucks with orders, they say "this truck's going to Wal Mart (or Lowes, or Home Depot), so pull all the names"? I can't imagine these same "no name" tags arrive at resale nurseries that way...

I can see NOT naming all those little 2.5" pots with various "thingies" in them...you know, like Stonecrop, akebia, pteris, etc., BUT a palm unnamed? That's sinful...

<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/weathersticker/cgi-bin/banner/ban/wxBanner?bannertype=wu_bluestripes_both&airportcode=CWJV&ForcedCity=Vernon&ForcedState=Canada&wmo=71115&language=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Vernon, CA" width="160" />

If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.

 
Posted : 06/03/2007 8:04 pm
Laaz
 Laaz
(@laaz)
Posts: 747
Prominent Member
 

Nurseries have the palms divided into sections & know what they are selling. It's the store that gets the plants in & tags them with that label. When I was in high school I worked at a Lowes. We had the tags ready back at the receiving dock. We would unload the trucks & snap tag many plants with the same tropical tags...

http://citrus.forumup.org/

 
Posted : 06/03/2007 8:10 pm
lucky1
(@lucky1)
Posts: 11322
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

I didn't know resale nurseries did their own labelling...interesting. Thanks.

When I was in high school I worked at a Lowes just a few years ago, huh? 😆

<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/weathersticker/cgi-bin/banner/ban/wxBanner?bannertype=wu_bluestripes_both&airportcode=CWJV&ForcedCity=Vernon&ForcedState=Canada&wmo=71115&language=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Vernon, CA" width="160" />

If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.

 
Posted : 06/03/2007 8:13 pm
(@oppalm)
Posts: 694
Honorable Member
 

i remember high school - it was just 25 years ago. I worked at KMart in the garden shop and developed a fascination with plants and trees. Had a great manager , named "Big Jim", that cared for all plants like they were his grandchildren.

Home Depot, Lowes and Walmart does the same thing here in Kansas City, tropical foliage is a generic tag for almost every plant on the floor. Most of the employees working in the garden centers don't know a marigold from a pear tree, so don't count on them for information.

Sorry about the rant - as I get older I get angrier.

Kent in Kansas
where it's cold in winter (always)
and hot in summer (usually)
<object width="290" height="130"><param name="movie" value="http://www.wunderground.com/swf/pws_mini_rf_nc.swf?station=KKSOVERL7&freq=2.5&units=english&lang=EN" /><embed src="http://www.wunderground.com/swf/pws_mini_rf_nc.swf?station=KKSOVERL7&freq=2.5&units=english&lang=EN" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="290" height="130" /></object>

 
Posted : 07/03/2007 9:17 am
lucky1
(@lucky1)
Posts: 11322
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

You are a youngster 😆 my high school days were almost 40 years ago.
People who had a Big Jim in their early working years were very fortunate, and they would've passed on not only their love of the topic and deep understanding, but also a strong work ethic (so lacking today).

don't know a marigold from a pear tree ha ha, that's about it. What a sorry state of affairs. Maybe the next generation (and the one in between us...of course) got picked up by aliens and had their brains sucked dry 😆 😆 😆
It sure seems like it...from the girl at the McDonalds window (who's never learned the word "thank you") to the guy gluing a PVC joint in your leaking irrigation system, they're dumb as a sack o' hammers. And they don't care that you KNOW that (that's what really blows me away). You'd think they'd try to hide it... 🙄

I'm with you on the rant, feel better already.
Barb

<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/weathersticker/cgi-bin/banner/ban/wxBanner?bannertype=wu_bluestripes_both&airportcode=CWJV&ForcedCity=Vernon&ForcedState=Canada&wmo=71115&language=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Vernon, CA" width="160" />

If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.

 
Posted : 07/03/2007 1:12 pm
(@alchris)
Posts: 878
Noble Member
 

I wasn't going to post anything and try to take the high road.

Ah to hell with it.

My high school years are about 40 years ago like yours Barb.

I had to try to train them up until a few years ago. They actually are not stupid. They save themselves for the internet, bars and parties and just don't give a damn. I was surprised how smart they were when you gave them a week to perform or you would fire them. But as soon as you are out of sight their attitudes go to hell again. You could fire them by the hundreds but their replacements would be just as bad.

Allen

You don't have to be crazy to grow palms in Alberta..... But it helps

 
Posted : 07/03/2007 3:03 pm
lucky1
(@lucky1)
Posts: 11322
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

Yup, Allen, they've majored in "deviousness/laziness". And just think...won't be long until THEY'RE making decisions governing US in our "older" age. 🙁

Getting back to topic 😀 that's why we're happy now! Coz we're spending quality time growing palms.

Thanks for rant sharing.
Barb

<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/weathersticker/cgi-bin/banner/ban/wxBanner?bannertype=wu_bluestripes_both&airportcode=CWJV&ForcedCity=Vernon&ForcedState=Canada&wmo=71115&language=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Vernon, CA" width="160" />

If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.

 
Posted : 07/03/2007 3:15 pm
(@wes-north-van)
Posts: 907
Prominent Member
 

Trachycarpus fortunei love the winter rains. Perhaps this is why they are so successful here in the lower mainland. We do not protect them from the rains. These palms need lots of water but they do not like sitting in water so the soil must drain well.

Wes North Vancouver Zone 8b/9a
Keats Island BC Zone 8a
Palm Springs CA Zone 9b/10a

 
Posted : 08/03/2007 1:18 am
lucky1
(@lucky1)
Posts: 11322
Illustrious Member
Topic starter
 

I had wondered how these palms would do so well in Vancouver...if the spears had to be protected from winter rains/freezing. Guess I read things wrong.
Some folks have such elaborate "houses" around theirs, though, for winter protection, they wouldn't get any rain on them.

Anyway I soaked mine yesterday until water ran out the bottom, and then a final bucket with added fertilizer.

No wonder those two "new" spears have been just "sitting there" since October!
Thanks for the tip to water in the winter!

<img src="http://weathersticker.wunderground.com/weathersticker/cgi-bin/banner/ban/wxBanner?bannertype=wu_bluestripes_both&airportcode=CWJV&ForcedCity=Vernon&ForcedState=Canada&wmo=71115&language=EN" alt="Find more about Weather in Vernon, CA" width="160" />

If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.

 
Posted : 08/03/2007 10:12 am
Page 1 / 2
Share: