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...but it is a stretch to call most of these "cold hardy."
Photo 1 is from Lowes, a chain big-box store. From front to back in the blue-pot "cold hardy palm" section of the garden section are:
--needle palms (should be fine here)
--blue med. fan palms (would need protection, but awful nice looking)
--green med fan palms (need protection, but mine has done well with 4 winters in ground)
--jelly/pindo palms (need serious protection, but beautiful and at $94/13 gallon pot very tempting)
Surprises:
--no Sabal minor (the Lowes I went to in Tyler, Texas last month had them--why not here?)
--no Trachy. That ought to be a given. 😕
Photo 2 shows me at the roadside palm stand. Same family business as the one where I bought a Bizzie last year and where W bought me the doomed cabbage palmetto. This branch is run by the son. I talked to him for quite awhile. He took a cell-phone snapshot of me in front of a pygmy date palm. In bloom: $90.
Photo 3 shows this years assortment of Bismarckia ($35). Cold damaged down in Florida. They buy palms in Homestead, south of Miami. If even palms there are cold damaged, imagine what the winter was like. :lickice:
Photo 4 shows the bottle palms ($30)
So, any advice on which if any I should buy?
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Posted : 04/05/2011 1:29 am
Buy them all. 😀
But if I could only get one I would try the blue med. 8)
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Posted : 04/05/2011 9:11 am
At least one of each of course!
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Posted : 04/05/2011 10:53 am
I stopped there too, a few weeks ago - the stand at the old shell station in BA, right? I really wanted a bismark and a bottle palm, but have ran out of room in the garage for winter storage. Heck I wanted a pdp also! All mine made it thru our brutal winter quite well and I chalk it up to the hardyness of the palms, cuz it sure wasn't my experience! My in ground palms are like those you listed: needle, windmill, sabal, and green mfp's. Can't go wrong with those, after this past winter. I found it odd that almost everything at that stand is an "annual" here. Cool stuff for sure tho
Posted : 04/05/2011 3:23 pm
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Kris,
welcome! We'll have to get together this Summer. My palms are around a pool in Bixby. We vacation to a tropical beach after work every day in summer 😀
I headed out with my truck over lunch break to get the biggest PDP and bottle palms they had but alas my old truck died en route. Maybe the wife will let me use her station wagon. I brought a big palm home from Alligater Alley in OKC with it last year.
Anyway, if you can start an "introduction" post and share photos of your palms, that would be most welcome here.
--Erik
Posted : 04/05/2011 3:28 pm
Thanx
I've been watching the boards awhile but never posted.
A pdp and bottle would be really cool as long as you have a place to overwinter them.
I can take some pix later of my small collection and start a new thread as I don't want to derail your thread.
Posted : 04/05/2011 3:35 pm
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Yes, we like photos on this board.
And the folks up in Canada like to see palms where they are growing already!
I have to run now, but i'll PM you later with email, telephone and facebook contact info. --Erik
Posted : 04/05/2011 3:41 pm
Interesting Erik. The local HD has the same lineup, with Sabal Minors being conspiculously absent.
Meds are probably the most attractive of the hardies, but require the most protection.
Needles and Trachys can, in theory, eventually stand alone.
So, do you want more aethestics with more work or less aethestics with less work?
Posted : 04/05/2011 3:45 pm
I'd get the bottle palms...very cool looking.
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Posted : 04/05/2011 9:42 pm
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Tim,
W likes the bottle palms, too, so I'll definitely get one of those.
W is worried that the PDP's spines would tear up the interior of her car.
My truck was towed to the mechanics and so will be unavailable for an indefinite time. 🙁
--Erik
Posted : 04/05/2011 10:37 pm
Oooooh, Erik.
They'd be crammed into my car...all of 'em.
I'm with the bottle palm and PDP group.
PDP spines aren't bad...only at the bottom, just wrap with an old blanket to save the car interior.
Nice looking specimens.
and KrisK, welcome to PN, happy to have you aboard.
Can't wait to see your palms!
Erik...obviously not the nursery you work at? 😥
Barb
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Posted : 04/05/2011 10:41 pm
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Barb,
thanks!
No, not the nursery where I work. That is definitely the finest nursery in the area and people drive long distances to buy there. Want a Hosta? They have 'em all. Et cetera.
But--they do not know palms. They had Trachy for sale last weekend which were labelled as "med fan palm" 😯
And their needle palms are stocked with Rhapsis and other houseplants. 😯 😯
--Erik
Posted : 04/05/2011 10:50 pm
Trachy for sale last weekend which were labelled as "med fan palm"
That can work in your favor for pricing 😀
Gonna get a few needles?
You probably wouldn't need to protect them at all after 2 or 3 years.
Probably ! LOL
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Posted : 04/05/2011 10:55 pm
Lucky you Erik .I would be like a kid in a candy store and buy way to many palms. Nice selection.
John
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Posted : 05/05/2011 2:38 pm
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I made a pass through the local Home Depot. Similar "cold hardy blue pot" palms (photo 1). They had Trachy at least, but not Sabal minor or the blue cerifera. Annoying was the "cold hardy" sticker on Livistonia. I have not grown them, but I am sceptical of calling them cold hardy in zone 6b.
They also had queen palms and Wodyetia palms in five gallon pots.
Instead, I took W's station wagon to the roadside palm vendor and bought three bottle palms @ $30 each. (Photo 2).
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Posted : 06/05/2011 12:32 am
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