Wow Jim..nice palm garden! 😀 And TerdalFarm, is the Dallas Farmer's Market still downtown, or has it moved?

-Jacob

Jim at first I didnt see the pindo next to that washy. I thought it was some grass because that sucker is getting big.....

I too am interested in watching more protection methods for next winter. There are several already on you tube. I do perfer the box methods over others. I guess after the destruction to my pindos this yr I will start using foam panels and wooden frames. As 18" of snow colapsed several cold frames. Even my sabal palmetto frame which is wood and wrapped with plastic is leaning. I should have used a solid roof.

Live and learn!

Jacob,
it is here:
http://www.dallasfarmersmarket.org/maps--directions.html

The palm vendors are in the blocks surrounding the market itself.
That link has a link to the Google map image and if you zoom in, you can see palm trees for sale. Yes, that is how big they are. 😯

Awesome thanks for the link! Dang! Those Sabals are huge! I wonder if any of those would fit in the back of my dad's Toyota Highlander? D:

Nope. How long a trailer can that thing tow? Check with U-Haul.

Highlander doesn't have a hitch, but we have a Ford pickup also...I'd probably want to take it:) Haha...anyway, any idea how much $$ for one of those Sabals?

I think the Butia Eriospatha has been in 4-5 years now.

Its covered with a poncho and a tarp.

@Jim...is that species more cold hardy than others? any heat at all?? Christmas lights or heat tape?

I dont use heat tape,X-mas lights are cheaper...I could never heat all my palms with heat cables-just to expensive.

I think there are about 20 C-9 lights in the Butia enclosure-180wts.

Eriospatha may be hardier than the other Butia varieties but there is a large range in hardiness
in individual plants so I wouldn't want to make a claim on any of them.

I can't believe how some people rap there palms with heat tape...I have seen a cover
wrapped around the palm and then heat tape,I wonder how the heat tape is supposed to warm the palm
when it is on the outside the cover...?

Well I meant using it to wrap Round the root ball, buried in the ground. Ones I use are meant to keep pipes from freezing and have built in thermostats much like a thermocline.

Googled that species and is cold hardier and doesn't mind wetter winter conditions.

I dont use heat tape,X-mas lights are cheaper...I could never heat all my palms with heat cables-just to expensive.

I think there are about 20 C-9 lights in the Butia enclosure-180wts.

I can't believe how some people rap there palms with heat tape...I have seen a cover
wrapped around the palm and then heat tape,I wonder how the heat tape is supposed to warm the palm
when it is on the outside the cover...?

I agree. My 12' S. Palmetto has the heat cable under ground and 2 strings of 20 lights above. The heat cable is too warm for the foliage as I cooked a few fronds, so I took affirmative action and unplugged the cable and went with the lights, and are much better now.

Many don't seem to like the look of a Palmetto as they are weeds in the SE. However, for their hardiness, I prefer them over the look of a Windmill. Besides, for my 2 cents, they are slower growers and you can keep the same boxes longer...

Verdict: In a box, Butia with heat cable in root ball plus 20 Xmas lights above grade, are a winner. Heat cable underground only when it dips below -8C (17F) occasionally as a precaution, the snow should insulate the ground, therefore you don't have to leave it plugged all winter long... crazy expensive. Larger the specimen the better.
Also,Buita in a box, wind-chill temps don't matter.

Sure the box method is the best for now, but i try to find another way to protect bigger palms. With the wrapping, i think it s the way to do that! I used heattape, it warm to about 50c, maybe it burn some leaves who touched directly the cable. I try the LED lights cordon (for Christmas decoration), 30 feets for 54 watts. For now its work well and cost less than heatcable. Under the wrapping, the probe never indicated Under -3c even at -30c outside.
I think we only have to do the same as we re doing for insulating our house.

For a 8 foots windmill: 54 watts LED cordon plugged into a T3 with 12 feets heatcable on the ground with is own thermostat, than wrap with water-vapor barier (not to tight, leaving 1-2 inches air space) i use the 1/2 inches insulation for water hot reservoir, add 2-3 inches pinkpanther fiberglass insulation then tarp. Thats it 😀
Like that, its the same thing for insulating an house, if for us its work why not for the palms 😉 ...

Ben

Jacob,
the sky is the limit on sizes/prices.
But, I have to suggest, if you are going to spend $500 -- $1,000 on a single specimen palm, I'd go with w Trachycarpus. Maybe spend "just" $300 on a large pindo and protect the heck out of it. (Well, the tall Trachy, too!)
Share photos of your trip for us. --Erik

Thanks Erik, good advice...and I'll definitely share pics!! I imagine I won't go til mid March, that way those guys can go right in the ground as soon as I get em home