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Oh, wow, Eric.
I get the satire...sad state of affairs everywhere.
No matter what the topic.
Barb
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Posted : 03/03/2014 8:45 pm
I do burn wood for heat, too, but that doesn't seem to make much of a difference. Just makes me feel warm and green.
Posted : 03/03/2014 10:28 pm
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We've got a Pacific Energy Summit airtight woodstove.
Can heat a 2500 sq ft house nicely.
Annually, seasoned birch costs $1,000.
Arrives cut/split.
And I save a fortune on gym costs stacking 5+ cords. 😆
Barb
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Posted : 04/03/2014 12:12 am
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OK, the hydro bill for the barely-heated building just arrived.
Dec 20 to Feb 20, to keep plants just about at death's door cost $482.87. 😯 😯
The same period last year, without a smart meter (the old mechanical meter), for about the same temperatures was $337.00.
That's a 43 per cent increase with a smart meter.
😥 😥
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Posted : 06/03/2014 12:25 pm
Welcome to the smart meter world, my bill yesterday was over $500! Last year same time was $235...
Looks like you may have run the dryer at midnight like we do in Ontario...
Je n'est pas d'affaire a faire, les affaires que je n'est pas d'affaire a faire - moi
I have no business doing the things I have no business doing - me
Posted : 06/03/2014 12:43 pm
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Welcome to the smart meter world, my bill yesterday was over $500! Last year same time was $235...
Looks like you may have run the dryer at midnight like we do in Ontario...
Holy toodles, yours increased ~117 % 👿
My bill, that building is ONLY used for plant storage over winter, its on separate meter from the house meter.
Nobody lives there, no dryer, winter heat kept at about 5 to 8 C.
I'm stunned by the money being raked in by them over the previous system. 😡
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Posted : 06/03/2014 1:06 pm
After I saw my hydro bill I truly believe that I'm the reason the temperature in Ontario did not go even lower. I think I heated all the sw Ontario.
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Posted : 06/03/2014 2:06 pm
Barb you getting screwed! Just you building is more than my everything. Hell I can throw car insurance in too. 😀
Posted : 06/03/2014 7:05 pm
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Yup, thought so, Chad.
Beware smart meters, and desperate bureaucrats.
Barb
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Posted : 07/03/2014 2:40 am
Dec 20 to Feb 20, to keep plants just about at death's door cost $482.87. 😯 😯 😥 😥
It looks much better if you count one month
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Posted : 07/03/2014 12:59 pm
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if you count one month
Not much better...for just 30 days $240.
Eight bucks a day. 😐
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Posted : 07/03/2014 2:24 pm
Maybe you need more insulation I think all my plants came to $250 for last 2 months That's 125 c9 lights on thermocubes in a bad 5B winter I had 16 enclosures to protect a 10' an 8' 2x4' and 12 Rose cones... Looks like about 10-15 more days and I'm home free every thing comes off and stays off...
Posted : 07/03/2014 4:55 pm
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teebee, from what you list that you've heated, you may be correct.
Will get H to check the attic insulation in the "cold building" this year, but the walls are 2x6.
Enjoy your warm-up...
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Posted : 07/03/2014 5:35 pm
Barb.... We don't have "cold buildings" over here. They are usually full of legal and illegal immigrants who live in outbuildings run by unscrupulous landlords. London is a big problem for this. But there's an idea for you 😆
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Posted : 07/03/2014 6:15 pm
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ha ha, Andy, hilarious.
My "cold building" is like a clubhouse--only used in summer.
and teebee...same insulation as last year 😆 😆 similar winter temps.
Barb
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Posted : 07/03/2014 6:37 pm
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